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VATICAN BIG GOES HARD AGAINST U.S. TEA PARTY CLIMATE SKEPTICS
Breitbart ^ | May 19, 2015 | Austin Ruse

Posted on 05/19/2015 5:18:06 PM PDT by ebb tide

Many Catholics and others were puzzled by the appearance of Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Professor Jeffrey Sachs and former Senator Tim Wirth as speakers or honored guests at a Vatican sponsored conference on global warming.

All three have spent years actively undermining Church teaching on questions of abortion and UN-style family planning, which includes active population control.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: agw; bankimoon; climatechange; econuts; francis; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; isthepopecatholic; jeffreysachs; sachs; sanchez; timwirth; un; vatican
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To: ebb tide

Moonman is a lightweight loser. Sachs, who I think I knew as a decent fellow at the World Bank, is now a hardcore climate leftist, and Wirth has always been a hardcore leftist since his days in Congress (he was a mental lightweight too).

What a “Three Stooges” trio of dimwits.


41 posted on 05/19/2015 6:42:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: ebb tide
Pope Obama. What a travesty the Catholic church has become.
42 posted on 05/19/2015 7:00:09 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Norm Lenhart

yep. he is south american and the lib theology is there strong.


43 posted on 05/19/2015 7:27:02 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: dforest

This pope sucks.


44 posted on 05/19/2015 7:56:14 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: ebb tide
The Pope is busy acting like an Antichrist.
Meanwhile nobody says there isn't climate change, we just say it is the planet and sun doing it in it's very long term cycle, not so much the people.
(Though people should try to not pollute the water.
45 posted on 05/19/2015 7:58:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: combat_boots

If Jesus didn’t rise from the dead that kinda’ puts an end to Christianity, huh.


46 posted on 05/19/2015 8:39:06 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Get real. The stories of Sod n’ Gom and Noah are just allegories. Allegories for what?

Just hate speech is all. /sarc

If you’re at all interested in Catholic prophecy, may I suggest the Hollywood movie, “The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima.”(1952)

It’s a movie, so it takes some liberties with an event which occurred in 1917 in Portugal during WW I. A public miracle associated with it was reported in major newspapers, including the New York Times.

The movie does portray the Miracle, which, as I said, was a public event witnessed by all in about a 20 mile radius of Fatima. This included skeptical and unbelieving reporters, who were there because the miracle was predicted in advance.

This does NOT prophesy the major Apocalypse of the end of time.

More recently, Pope Benedict beatified an Italian nun who died in 1961 who had prophecies of a chastisement to come soon. The story is here:

http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2012/04/prophecies-of-blessed-elena-aiello.html

Some of the quotes from the Blessed Virgin Mary gave to this Italian, Sister Aiello:

“People are offending God too much. Were I to show you all the sins committed on a single day, you would surely die of grief. These are grave times.

The world is thoroughly upset because it is in a worse condition than at the time of the deluge. Materialism marches on ever fomenting bloody strifes and fratricidal struggles.

Clear signs portend that peace is in danger. That scourge, like the shadow of a dark cloud, is now moving across mankind:

Only my power, as Mother of God, is preventing the outbreak of the storm. All is hanging on a slender thread. When that thread shall snap, Divine Justice shall pounce upon the world and execute its dreadful, purging designs. All the nations shall be punished because sins, like a muddy river, are now covering all the earth.

‘CLOUDS WITH LIGHTNING FLASHES OF FIRE IN THE SKY AND A TEMPEST OF FIRE SHALL FALL UPON THE WORLD. THIS TERRIBLE SCOURGE, NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY, WILL LAST SEVENTY HOURS. GODLESS PERSONS WILL BE CRUSHED AND WIPED OUT. MANY WILL BE LOST BECAUSE THEY REMAIN IN THEIR OBSTINACY OF SIN. THEN SHALL BE SEEN THE POWER OF LIGHT OVER THE POWER OF DARKNESS’. ‘Be not silent, my daughter, because the hours of darkness, of abandonment, are near.

Father Albert Hebert also wrote a book, “The Three Days of Darkness”, that includes prophecies from various saints over the centuries that allude to our time.

Finally I’ll leave you with the prophecy of Sister Jeanne le Royer (d. 1798):

Woe ! Woe ! Woe to the last century !

Here is what God wanted to show me in his Light. I began looking in the light of God, the century which must begin in 1800; I saw by this light that judgment wasn’t there, and that it wouldn’t be the last century. I considered, thanks to the same light, the century of 1900, until the end, to see positively if it would be the last. Our Lord made me know, and at the same time made me doubt, if it would be at the end of the century of 1900, or in that of 2000. But what I saw, it is that if the judgment arrived in the century of 1900, it would come only towards the end, and that if the world exceeds this century, the first two decades of the century of 2000 will not pass without the judgment intervening, as I saw it in the light of God.”

For what it may be worth to you ... and if you’re not Catholic, it may not be worth much at all; I understand.

Perhaps many might agree on this at least, that because of the long-running scourge of abortion and the more recent and ever-growing insanity of homosexual marriage, SOMETHING has got to give, and soon.


47 posted on 05/19/2015 9:51:29 PM PDT by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: CynicalBear

It’s all clear now


48 posted on 05/19/2015 9:52:06 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: ebb tide
Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (1302): "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam: (Promulgated November 18, 1302) “We declare, say, define, and pronounce [ex cathedra] that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

"If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " — Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302)
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html

49 posted on 05/19/2015 10:22:38 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dfwgator
"Tax the Church!"

Yeah, and start with the weak "home churches" and "Bible Study groups" first to set the precedent !!!

50 posted on 05/20/2015 12:02:52 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: metmom; ebb tide

Being “subject to the Pontiff” does not include following immoral commands.


51 posted on 05/20/2015 2:33:14 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Odd, I did not see that exception stated......


52 posted on 05/20/2015 3:59:55 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
>>It’s all clear now<<

Evidently not to a lot of people. I would simply repeat to Catholics "come out of her my people lest ye be partakers of her plagues".

53 posted on 05/20/2015 6:22:45 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: piusv
Being “subject to the Pontiff” does not include following immoral commands.

That would be your own personal interpretation, unless you have a source for such an exception. And please don't quote scripture, as that would be your own personal interpretation as well.

Second, what gives you the right to judge the morality of a Pontiff's orders? That again would be your own personal interpretation; your opinion of his decree.

So it is your interpretation that your opinion is greater than the Pontiff's command.

54 posted on 05/20/2015 8:23:43 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Norm Lenhart
Seriously? Look for them to announce that Jesus was merely a metaphor.

I’m not kidding.

They declared Adam and Eve to be "metaphors" a long time ago. Would this be any different?

55 posted on 05/20/2015 8:33:47 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: piusv
Being “subject to the Pontiff” does not include following immoral commands.

Researching subjection to the Roman pontiff is interesting. It seems the prevailing Catholic interpretation is that subjection to the Roman pontiff is absolutely necessary for the salvation of Roman Catholics, but not for anyone else. This reconciles the infallible last sentence of Unam Sanctam with Vatican II.

Further research shows the commerce clause of subjugation to the Roman pontiff. "We declare that in no way do we wish to usurp the jurisdiction of the King...And yet, neither the King nor anyone else of the faithful can deny that he is subject to us where a question of sin is involved."

So if sin is involved, then the Roman pontiff rules supreme and even Kings must bow. In the life of man, where isn't sin involved? Yup, exactly like the commerce clause.

56 posted on 05/20/2015 8:46:25 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Tao Yin; metmom
“Just as it is lawful to resist the pope that attacks the body, it is also lawful to resist the one who attacks souls or who disturbs civil order, or, above all, who attempts to destroy the Church. I say that it is lawful to resist him by not doing what he orders and preventing his will from being executed.”

St. Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church

57 posted on 05/20/2015 12:58:13 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Tao Yin
Second, what gives you the right to judge the morality of a Pontiff's orders?

You mean you don't know when someone is telling you to do something against God's commands? Or telling you that something that was once condemned by the Church is now not condemned?

58 posted on 05/20/2015 1:01:54 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Nope, not a bit. Incrementalism in action.


59 posted on 05/20/2015 1:04:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tao Yin; piusv

And just who determines when sin is involved and the decision is made to not have to obey the pope?

Is that made by the magisterium?

The clergy?

The individual layperson?

And on what basis? Isn’t that then all a matter of one’s personal interpretation of what sin is, based on what? Scripture? The Catechism? Trent? Who decides what to pick to listen to? On what basis? And when?

Seems to me that it becomes an individual decision, a judgment call, as it were.


60 posted on 05/20/2015 1:05:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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