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To: smvoice

**I told you that the first part of Acts had to be understood before we could go on to Cornelius.**

Is chapter 5 still close enough to ‘the first part of Acts’? Peter is still preaching to the Jews there:

“The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand”..(his ‘right hand’, not his left hand or both hands?? But, that’s another subject)..”to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give REPENTANCE to Israel, and FORGIVENESS OF SINS. And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him”. Acts 5:30-32

It looks to me that Peter is still preaching the Acts 2 message in chapter 5. Matter of fact, he was only preaching what Jesus Christ (in Luke 24:46-49) had commanded him to:

“Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that REPENTANCE and REMISSION of SINS should be preached in his name among ALL NATIONS, BEGINNING at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. And behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.”

You see, when Jesus Christ began to preach, it was with this: “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matt. 4:17), and also: “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel”. (Mark 1:15), He was not announcing that it had begun, but that it was immenent. He still kept the Law up until the cross, even telling the leper he had healed, to go and show himself to the priest, and offer the things commanded by Moses.

**Here is an example of this: “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou AT THIS TIME RESTORE AGAIN the KINGDOM TO ISRAEL?” (Acts 1:6).**

At that point, the apostles still hadn’t received the power and wisdom of the Holy Ghost, that the Lord said would then happen to them. See John 14:16-26; 15:26; 16:7-15.

**BTW: you’ll note that Peter is given this vision in Acts 10. Paul is saved in Acts 9. Important?**

Are you questioning the Lord’s choice in not sending Paul to Cornelius? Peter was indeed slow to grasp the Lord’s inclusion of the Gentiles. But, put yourself in his position: You also would’ve wanted to be absolutely sure you were called to do such a thing. The end result is that he DID obey the Lord’s command. Peter was given the ‘keys’, and was the man to be present when the three main groups of people, the Jews, the Samaritans, and the Gentiles, received the Holy Ghost.

Now Paul’s conversion, which is further described in chapter 22:16, and in his testamony to king Agrippa in chapter 26:18,19,20:

Ananias said to Saul/Paul, in 22:16; “And now why tarriest thou? arise”..(why did he have to arise? because Ananias wasn’t going to carry him to the water.)..”and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord”. (sounds like Ananias knew Acts 2:38).

26:18,19,20 (beginning in the middle of the Lord’s command to Paul). “..To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and an inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do WORKS meet for repentance”.

After his first missionary journey into Asia Minor, Paul was staunchly against the Jewish Christians that still had trouble letting go of the Law, but, on his next mission DID circumcise Timothy to help reduce the complaint of the unbelieving Jews.

**Dispensationalists believe that the dispensation of the grace of God began with Paul and not before. Eph. 3:2,3,5,6,9.**

Some dispensationalists may believe that, but they are wrong. Just go read Acts 19: 1-7. And even though Paul was sent to Gentiles, he didn’t entirely pass up preaching to the Jews. For conversion, the apostles all taught the same thing. In a nutshell, it’s Acts 2:38,39.

**Times and seasons. Dispensations. That God the Father has in His own power. That are given according to His purposes and will.**

Indeed. But God hasn’t ‘shifted gears’ since Acts 2.


260 posted on 05/24/2015 2:52:57 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
Yes, the same message is being preached in Acts 5 that was preached in Acts 2. And Matt and Mark and Luke and John. And everywhere up to the point that Paul is saved, Acts 9. The Lord did not send Paul to Cornelius for a very important reason. Read Acts 10 carefully. Did Peter jump at the opportunity to witness to Cornelius as part of the great commission to go to all nations? No. He had to be given a vision about this. And he even questioned that. And he STILL told Cornelius that it was unlawful for a Jew to "keep company" or "come unto one of another nation" BUT God had SHOWED him to go. NOT TOLD him as part of the great commission. Christ showed Peter this AFTER the kingdom commission was given to him and the 11. That's important.

Until the time Israel is blinded (temporarily) and set aside, (Acts 28), Paul confirmed the covenants God made with Israel and kept the law. Once they were set aside, the ordinances that were contained in the law were blotted out. Col. 2:9-14. Paul had a two fold ministry. First he confirmed the covenants and promises made to Israel and second he proclaimed the gospel of the grace of God. As long as Israel was still operating as God's favored people, they were given the gospel of the kingdom, to accept whereby Christ would return and set up the Kingdom. Once they rejected the gospel of the kingdom and Christ as Messiah, there was no longer a gospel of the kingdom to proclaim. There was no one to proclaim it to. The gospel of the grace of God superceded it and will until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. At which time the Church the Body of Christ is removed and God removes the scales from Israel's eyes and the kingdom gospel is once again preached. Think about it: once the Body of Christ is raptured, who is there to preach the gospel of the grace of God to? Knowing that this gospel, when believed, places us into the Body of Christ, once that Body is complete, it is removed from this earth to heaven. There is no more Body left to fill. It is complete. This is why the dispensation of the grace of God ends. And why the kingdom message is once again proclaimed.

261 posted on 05/24/2015 3:38:48 PM PDT by smvoice (I would explain it better, but I only know a few words...)
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To: Zuriel
Your last sentence: Sorry Zuriel, but that is just not true. As in evidenced by Paul's ministry compared to Peter and the 11. You may not BELIEVE that it changed, but it DID change.

If Paul were given the same commission as Peter and the 11, why not save him before the day of Pentecost and make him the 12th Apostle? He wasn't made the 12th because his ministry, given to him by the RIsen Christ, was different.

262 posted on 05/24/2015 3:42:31 PM PDT by smvoice (I would explain it better, but I only know a few words...)
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