Posted on 05/25/2015 9:36:46 AM PDT by ebb tide
Philippines Cardinal Luis Tagle -- often cited as a possible successor to Pope Francis -- has called on Catholics to avoid looking to the pre-Second Vatican Council church with a sense of nostalgia, but to embrace and live out the council's sense of openness to the modern world.
Modernist Jesuit church-babble.
More gobbledegook from the article:
"...Gaillardetz, a professor at Boston College, said Francis "has boldly returned to the foreground a broad range of conciliar teachings." Among those, the professor said, is a "recontextualization" of the role of doctrine in the life of the church.
"Our first Latin American pope is not afraid to affirm the necessary place of doctrine in the church, but he ... situates it within the pastoral life of the church," Gaillardetz said."
Gray is the favorite shade of the Devil (and of Jesuits).
The only thing “catholic” about the National “Catholic” Reporter is like the use of the word “democrat” which appears in the name, democrat party. It’s in name only.
No.
Tagle is the Filipino Francis. God help us if he ever becomes Pope. There’s a real possibility he would be worse than the current pope.
I was thinking the same thing.
Your post above caught my attention and I wonder if you might be willing to entertain a question. Where I live every Catholic church is absolutely rife with modernism and irreverence; it is truly ugly. But, there is, at the moment, a traditional Mass offered just over a hundred miles away each Sunday. I would be willing to drive the distance but I must admit I am intimidated. Having never been to a traditional Mass I am worried about expectations.
For instance, I get the impression that traditional Catholics are much more worried about style of dress than are others. Would I be expected to actually wear a suit? And my wife does not like dresses and I don’t believe she even owns one at this time. Would she be expected to wear such? And what about colors? Are some acceptable and others frowned upon? And with three boys the same concern applies. I am a poor working class guy and do not have closets full of suits and ties for my children. So I am concerned about whether I would even be able to attend such a church if expectations are that high. Can you offer any advice and information to an interested person such as myself?
You can wear a nice shirt and pants. Your wife can wear a blouse and skirt.
Yes, I need to go to Saint Gabriel.
At my Parish, we dress the same as we would for the Novus Ordo. I wear slacks to Mass, so, I don’t think your wife has anything to worry about. I see many women wear mantillas or hats, but that is optional. I don’t wear a mantilla, but they are pretty. Some guys wear suits, others wear like business casual. Dress the best that you’re able. Bright colors, dark colors are fine. Dress tastefully and modestly. Jeans, shorts, really short skirts, and tank tops are not recommended at my Parish for either kind of Mass. But if all you have is jeans, don’t let that stop you from going, by no means. The important thing is you’re going to receive Jesus. Don’t be intimidated! :-)
Thanks for the information, that seems very helpful. I will have to see about making a trip out there soon and check things out.
Remember to watch the Priest. When the priest is on the right side of the altar, he’s reading the Introit, the Collect, and the Epistle, and the Communion(and post Communion) verses. When he’s reading on the left side of the altar, he’s reading the Gospel, and then the Last Gospel at the end of the Mass. Like in the NO, you sit for the Epistle. You stand for the Gospels.
The only rule (unwritten) at our diocese Latin Mass seems to be no shorts. But nothing would be said to summer visitors if they arrived in such. Both dresses and pants are seen — all colors. Some of the Hispanic women expose more via racy blouses than I personally would want to see. Everyone loves to see kids show up.
When entering the vestibule there is a portrait of Frank. I turn my head the other way and suppress the gag reflex.
Our priests give very traditional and moralistic homilies. We have had visitors walk out during a homily (I forget if it was strongly pro-life or pro-traditional family).
We have several farmers who attend in jeans. lol Even their wives can't pry them out of them.
Thank you both so much for all the help and information. It really has been a comfort to hear the advice. It certainly sounds like I should put aside my anxieties and just go and find out how it feels for me. My doubts and concerns have so far restrained me, but what you say lends me much more confidence. Thank you very much.
Tagle is the last gasp of the bologna school’s council of discontinuity.
I'm guessing you just missed my advice?
Hey, I somehow did just that. I had to go back through and look it up. Thanks for that as well. It is always great to be able to ask a question and get so much advice and guidance. It shows how helpful Freepers and Catholics can be.
You will know what is happening for the most part, many TLM parishes have a red missalette which visitors may use, it has drawings and stand/sit cues. Do not try to follow everything the first time, just enjoy the prayer experience. Please let us know what you think.
I think he ignored you because you said he had to wear a “nice” shirt. I would recommend he simply wear a shirt. :)
And English translations on the facing pages. I'm still using it after all these years.
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