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1 posted on 05/28/2015 7:40:25 PM PDT by annalex
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This seems to be the Italian source: COSI' PARLO' LA CURIA PROFONDA AL TEMPO DI FRANCESCO
2 posted on 05/28/2015 7:42:38 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses

For your ping lists; remember, on Catholic matters I rely on your ping membership.


3 posted on 05/28/2015 7:43:52 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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“Francis has remained with his heart and mind the Archbishop of Buenos Aires...."

Isn't THAT the truth!

4 posted on 05/28/2015 7:50:37 PM PDT by Ken522
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Pope Francis' expression of “Who am I to judge?” also finds much criticism:

With this renunciation to judge, this 'sentence which has been abused by many media, Pope Francis did damage to the Church,' stressed another interlocutor from the Vatican with whom I met for lunch in Trastevere. 'He has, without intending it, favored the advance of the homosexual lobby which he claims to fight.'

"Who am I to judge?" was pulled out of a longer statement in which Francis said first: "After I give absolution - who am I to judge?"

Of course, he is right because after absolution it is no longer in his hands but it is in God's hands.

The media conveniently twists everything that comes out of his mouth, so how can I judge what he says when I only get part of the story?

8 posted on 05/28/2015 8:05:54 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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Wow.


14 posted on 05/28/2015 8:55:29 PM PDT by tioga
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I had posted this article to my FB the other day and took it down an hour later. I have some Catholic FB friends who are more easily scandalized and I didn't want to cause them any spiritual distress.

I try to save this kind of discussion to here. Which brings me to a question I have: with the upcoming synod and the confusion and scandal it will surely bring, not to mention the many European Bishops' conferences darn near in schism how does one talk about these issues to those who we would consider nominal Catholics?

19 posted on 05/28/2015 11:03:52 PM PDT by JPX2011
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This was the statement that shocked me as truth!

“Francis has remained with his heart and mind the Archbishop of Buenos Aires. That would also be fine, if he were not, for two years now, the Bishop of Rome and therewith Pope of the Universal Church.”

He must come into the knowledge of the papacy immediately and act like a Pope instead of some campaigning Archbishop.....this is not criticism.....but a sincere plea.

30 posted on 05/29/2015 7:46:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Nothing will work until the RCC scraps once and for all the celibacy rule for priests. The rule is the main reason the clergy is overrun with homosexuals and all the spiritual disease they bring to the Church.

They can keep a monastic lifestyle for men who are called to it, so long as they're not homosexual of course. The RCC must at all costs purge its ranks of gay men. But it won't. Know why? Because all or nearly all the men who would make the decision are themselves homosexuals.

The RCC was thoroughly infiltrated by gays beginning circa 1930. It's over. They own the entire clergy from the Vatican on down. I see no way short of some major calamity/chastisement that the gays can be dislodged.

That's why I left the RCC. And I was a good little hymn singer, too. But after I learned that my best friend was molested as a kid by a priest, and one of my nephews, maybe two of my nephews, then I really just had to say enough. I have a reputation to keep up. I can't have my good name associated with anything in a Roman collar.

32 posted on 05/29/2015 7:53:57 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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Well, I read the whole thing carefully, and it doesn’t really say anything, except that there are disagreements among the Vatican insiders. Well, we knew that already.

I’m very disappointed at some of Pope Frances’s appointments. He has promoted some lousy bishops into key spots, he has allowed the troublemakers to run things, and he seems to me far too preoccupied with himself. Who cares if he lives in cheap rooms instead of the papal apartments? There are more important things to be done than constantly saying: “Look at me! Don’t I live a wonderful life of poverty?”

But, in any case, I don’t think this present article says anything except that there are vague discontents about the Pope from all sides.


38 posted on 05/29/2015 8:29:12 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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We have lost our sense of scandalous CaTholic behavior,


56 posted on 05/29/2015 7:57:00 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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