Why I'm Still Catholic (And Why Other People Aren't)

catholic365.com ^ | 6/24/2015 | y Anabelle Hazard

[metmom]

2 Corinthians 6:2 For he says, “In a favorable time I listened to you, and in a day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the favorable time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

We are saved NOW. The finish of the redemption it yet to happen when we die, but it is guaranteed by the sealing of the Holy Spirit of believers.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

[editor-surveyor]

MM, you are exaggerating the meaning of that passage.

Paul, above all of the apostles, makes it plain that salvation is only at the last trump.

Your idea would have Paul contradicting himself.

[editor-surveyor]

Every element of the RCC is man made tradition.

[metmom]

Then what is the point of telling us that the Holy Spirit is our guarantee and that we are sealed?

Sealed for WHAT? then.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Everyone was redeemed because the ransom was already paid.” <<

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If there were any truth in that, no one would be in danger of hell fire. His payment was sufficient for all, yet only the few will be saved.

You have no understanding of the word.

[editor-surveyor]

What does Hebrews 6 say?

What does 2Peter 2 say?

What does 1John say?

You exaggerate Paul’s exuberance as Peter said.

Hopefully, not to your own destruction.
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[metmom]

You tell me.

[editor-surveyor]

I’ll tell you to watch and see how many that think that they’re saved end up willingly taking the mark.

If you endure to your end, then you are saved.

[MHGinTN]

God contradicts your assertion by placing His Life, His Holy Spirit in those who believed the Gospel. It is recorded in the Bible as happening at the Pentecost preaching of Peter and the house of Cornelius preaching of Peter. In both of those scenes we see God Saved them right then and placed His Spirit in them as His seal of their immediate transformation from unsaved to born from above.

Jesus is coming int he Air, soon, to REDEEM the living and dead who are in Him. Then, at the end of The Great Tribulation, Jesus is coming to set foot a second time upon the earth. The Rapture is not a 'setting foot upon the earth'. This coming in the air without setting foot upon the earth is clearly illustrated by Jesus speaking to Saul on the Road to Damascus, where He appeared to Saul but was not present On the earth.

Catholics do a sort of reverse of this by claiming their priest reaches into Heaven and brings Christ down to the catholic altar in the Mass, to be victim present for those taking the Eucharistic wafer.

[editor-surveyor]

God contradicts only you and your catholics.

God will never contradict me because I stick to his inerrant word.

You should try it! (you’ll like it)
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[MHGinTN]

Actually, you appear to stick to Michael Rood’s word more than anything else. Your Roodness is ... wait for it ... foolishness.

[vladimir998]

“If there were any truth in that, no one would be in danger of hell fire.”

False. To be redeemed does not mean to be saved as in entering heaven. Protestants admit this - as I have posted the links on several occasions now.

“His payment was sufficient for all, yet only the few will be saved.”

See, now you seem to be contradicting yourself.

“You have no understanding of the word.”

Sure I do - and many Protestants agree with me.

You might want to read this: http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/the%204%20different%20aspects%20of%20salvation.htm

[Mark17]

A ‘once was a catholic priest’ brother in Christ mentioned recently that the fires of Hell cannot burn away sin. So sin is so unrighteous that even the burning of it will not erase it.

Interesting point. I think God does not allow us to see just how hideous sin really is, or we would never even be able to get out of bed in the morning, and face the day. I think if one does not allow Jesus to pay for his sins, he must pay for them by himself. Even an eternity in Hell, will not get a sinner even remotely close to paying for his sins, so Hell continues, and I believe sinners in Hell are still sinning while in Hell. People need to get their stuff together, and get saved, or they will face the same dilemma.

I visited Fort Wayne Bible College once. The lady that ran the bookstore told me she had been a former nun. She got saved by reading the DR Bible. Praise God for that. 😂😇

[MHGinTN]

Indeed, thanks be to God. The sad part is the unrealized Grace of being Born from Above to live a life Justified and being sanctified. To have to re-up ‘salvation’ through rituals and bead reading and purgatory suffering, well, that is a different gospel all together. O ran across an astonishing blasphemy in the Catechsm of the RCC recently, where it is instructed that faithful catholics can literally pray and work others out of purgatory! Padre Pio is said to have had a vision beside his window of persons leaving purgatory because of his suffering for them!

[editor-surveyor]

Anyone that agrees with you is lost!

[editor-surveyor]

This has nothing to do with M Rood, but He never deviates from the word either.

Perhaps that is what frightens you so?

The plain word of God is scary only to those that are in opposition to it, like dispys, and catholics.
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[MHGinTN]

Lol.

[editor-surveyor]

Nervous laugh, huh?

[editor-surveyor]

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Christians do not ‘interpret’ the Bible. The Bible is written in fairly plain fashion, and has absolutely no need for interpretation.

Interpretation comes in when one rejects the plain meaning that the Holy Spirit gives us, and seeks to turn it to something more pleasing to man. This is the catholic method.

That is why catholics reject the scriptures.
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[MHGinTN]

You’re kind of creepy in your neediness.