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Why the church should neither cave nor panic about the decision on gay marriage
Washington Post ^ | 26JUN15 | Russell Moore

Posted on 06/26/2015 11:16:43 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater

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To: squarebarb

Yeah. We won today. Yesterday too. Show us the way out of this big talker bully person.


21 posted on 06/26/2015 11:45:21 AM PDT by Luke21 (Go Ted go.)
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To: squarebarb

Not everybody either believes, or is earnest about the belief.

Serious theologically minded people can see what has happened. The very decision itself was basically kicked off with an assertion that rhymes with original sin. Scalia with his ever brilliant wit said he’d put his head in a bag if he had to say something like that to get a consensus.

Do we need “SPIRITUAL BATTLE” to be illuminated in neon for us?


22 posted on 06/26/2015 11:47:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: squarebarb

“Look at the conservative movement, we haven’t done really much of anything.”

Well, I suppose if I were 17 years old I might think that, too, but a school board isn’t going to override the supreme court.


23 posted on 06/26/2015 11:47:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad

Exactly. This is where the rubber will meet the road. Those churches willing to give up the funds will stay true; others will not. The choice will be the same choice 2000 years ago: God or mammon.


24 posted on 06/26/2015 11:48:13 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Since the majority of “churches” in my area are mega churches I totally believe they will stay 501c3 and go along. Those places costs millions, have full schools and rec centers, etc. They won’t sacrifice any money. They’ll sacrifice their so-called “values”.


25 posted on 06/26/2015 11:49:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: squarebarb
I hear what you are saying, but don't curse God!

Yes, we have a fight ahead of us and we need to be willing to fight! Fight we must, until the end! However, we have been to the end of the Bible, and this will not end well. Except for those who look to Jesus Christ. America has been a wonderful country and I served my country in time of war.

That said, our first allegiance is to God and family before country. We have not left our country, our country has left us. Come quickly Jesus!
26 posted on 06/26/2015 11:50:04 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Luke21

The verdict that mattered happened 2000 years ago.

Now if you insist on being a worldling, things like this court’s guff now begin to look dispositive.

Those who actually begin living out their faith (and many more will be forced to do it, the world’s rug being pulled out from under them) will see this is not abstract theological theorizing. They will start to see a Spirit of Victory prevailing very oddly against the prince of this world in their own lives.

But you have to want to do it. If the world is your support, no go.


27 posted on 06/26/2015 11:51:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Appreciate your comments Patton@Bastogne. What do you think of Ted Cruz? Just trying to understand who to vote for...


28 posted on 06/26/2015 11:52:16 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: CodeToad

Christendom may find that it does not NEED Caesar’s law to start making headway in society... and then the devil will be in real danger.


29 posted on 06/26/2015 11:52:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Patton@Bastogne

Vote for Christ in your heart... start believing in His seemingly impossible promises (which are not really impossible, but the world keeps droning on that they are).

THEN... let Him take you from there.

This battle is going to look strange, men. Very strange.


30 posted on 06/26/2015 11:54:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We can only hope.


31 posted on 06/26/2015 11:54:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad

Not true. Churches should be exempt because they are doing the Lord’s work. Do you think being a for profit business will shield them from having to marry Sodomites? Ask the cake company in Oregon...or the bed and breakfast in Colorado...


32 posted on 06/26/2015 11:55:55 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: CodeToad

Don’t break my heart!! ... only HOPE?

Start carrying on as if it were true... you’ll find it is.

Sometimes atheists aren’t the only troublesome lack of faith in the world.


33 posted on 06/26/2015 11:57:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There is a big difference between tax regulators making demands of a 501c3 and someone having to sue a for-profit.


34 posted on 06/26/2015 11:57:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It’s “NICE” if they can be and the Lord may yet grant it in grace... but if it leads to dictums about what they must do, then they should let it go. Leave it behind. It did not stop the Lord from blessing with the needed grace many decades ago and it won’t now.


35 posted on 06/26/2015 11:58:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

What is scary, is that all of the good conservative God fearing leaders in our military have slowly been replaced by Sodomite supporters. If there were a Patton or a Macarthur, he wouldn’t last 10 minutes in our “Brave New Military”...


36 posted on 06/26/2015 12:00:35 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Now I know! Sorry! I am voting for him as well!


37 posted on 06/26/2015 12:02:12 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hope has to be the plan right now because we have not seen evidence of it otherwise.


38 posted on 06/26/2015 12:02:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Discussed this issue with my parish priest today, prior to the announcement, he told me he would go to jail before performing a same sex marriage.


39 posted on 06/26/2015 12:03:22 PM PDT by mware
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To: Future Snake Eater

I hope you are prepared for what follows.

You have to understand, this isn’t about marriage. Seriously.

This is dictated directly by Satan by those under his control. Just like Sodom.

These people despise the good. So says the prophets.

I’ve said it on this forum many times. Accepting homosexual marriage is taking on the mark of the beast. It’s now mandatory for all states. Those that don’t will be targeted.

Just like liberals always do. As Rush Limbaugh has said a million times, liberals want to destroy the opposition. It’s personal to them. And they can’t let it go.

Watch for them now go after your churches on the basis of not performing legal marriages. They will remove all the churches ability to perform state sanctioned marriages based on discrimination.

Next will be discrimination based on employee benefits and ‘legal’ employee marriages.

As the scripture states “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

They will financially ruin you.

The Catholic church will capitulate. It’s on the verge right now.

Violence will continue to spread from the middle east until it consumes the whole world.

7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

The Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith almost 200yrs ago about this and what the Latter-day Saints should do in order to endure this incredible hardship. Just like He did Noah.

You can choose not to believe this, but it’s happening right in front of your eyes.


40 posted on 06/26/2015 12:17:31 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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