Posted on 07/01/2015 7:13:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Catholics believe that even non-Catholics/Christians can be saved? Why? Because of God’s salvific Will. God desires that all men be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
If God did not provide a means for the salvation of all men, his ordaining Will would be in vain. This is a logical impossibility in consideration of the nature of God.
So God must provide a means of salvation for those who are ignorant of Christ through no fault of their own.
Salvation is an enormous topic. In its simplest formulation, and normatively speaking, we must repent, believe and be baptized.
But how do we know what to repent of? How do we repent? What earthly authority can tell us? How do we know?
The same questions can be asked about “believing.”
Jesus tells us that if we love Him we must believe everything he teaches.
How do we know what Christ taught?
The Bible is one source, but it cannot be the only source, because if we reject the authority of Christ’s Church and It’s charism of infallibility, we reject the institution that wrote, compiled, canonized and preserved the Bible. This would put the inerrancy of the Bible in doubt.
More importantly, Jesus never mentions “Scripture alone” as the sole rule of faith. Rather, He warns us against failing to “listen to the church,” (we will be regarded as non-Christians) because the Apostles and their successors have the power to “bind and loose,” given to them by Jesus. This was a rabbinic term meaning indisputable ecclesiastical authority. Christ’s Church is “the pillar and foundation of truth.”
So normatively, in order to be saved, a candidate for entry into the Church must believe whatever the Church teaches dogmatically, be baptized, repent of his sins through the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and receive the Eucharist. Once a member of the Church, the candidate must remain in a state of grace by receiving the Sacraments regularly and worthily, including Confession, especially when one is conscious of having committed a mortal sin.
While on earth we can have a moral certainty of salvation, we cannot have absolute certainty.
Paul speaks of working out his salvation in fear and trembling, and Jesus commands us to remain in Him.
All they do is present lies and distorted truths.
He did not say work out to assure your salvation........or ...work out to be saved....
He said they were to work out what they already had.. their salvation ...For it is God that works out His will in you ... for His pleasure ..(Phil2:12)
God does not work IN those that are not saved ...
Thee are people that believe Mormons are Christians ...Most people have no clue what Rome teaches or believes
Rome does not teach or believe the gospel..
Rome does not believe in Luther.
You received the Gospel from Christ’s Church.
“Did Simon Magus claim he could red minds or was he just a good magician?”
red [sic] minds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAaRyWgStGg
I believe what scripture says it means.
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.
Are Catholics so unaware of the transformation that happens when a believer is indwelt by the Holy Spirit that they need to give credit to man rather than the influence of the Holy Spirit?
She’s not tearing down other Christians.
She’s posting the truth found in Scripture which reveals the errors of CatholicISM.
Is all it takes.
Acts 16:27-31 When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. But Paul cried with a loud voice, Do not harm yourself, for we are all here. And the jailer called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas. Then he brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.
I am sorry that you feel that way, but it is simply not true. The Catholic Church is the only one that believes, teaches and spreads the whole Gospel to the world.
See post 232
You’re welcome. I’m sorry though I don’t understand your question. Please rephrase.
In deference to you, gentle soul, I would ask if you want to compile a list based upon the posts so far, or should we wait for more to be offered?
What a very a childish and overly emotional response. I’m not holding anyone hostage to anything. How obsurd. But this is NOT a Religious Forum. This is a bash Catholics forum. Of course I’m for free speech, but I’m also for truthful speech, so call it What it is. The majority of threads that are posted on the Religious Forum are posted by Protestants for the sole purposes of bashing Catholics. Period.
>How would YOU operate it?<
Gee, I don’t know, since it’s called a “Religious Forum” I might would expect people to treat each like they would say, at church?
Well I think bigotry is reprehensible.
Sensor remarks? No. By all means,continue with the Catholic bashing. How dare us mention the hate that is causing Christians to be slaughtered on the hate the Catholic Christians threads.
Please, commence. And I will take your advice and not click on threads I “don’t like.”
I do find it interesting that posters are able according to the “rules” to insult and hate collectively but not individually, although I see no discernable difference.
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