Five Reasons I Reject the Doctrine of Transubstantiation

Reclaiming the Mind Credo House ^ | March 8, 2013 | C Michael Patton

[verga]

There is physical and there is spiritual. There is nothing else.

There is Catholic, protestant, Jewish, Pagan, Atheist, and agnostic, there is nothing else.

[CynicalBear]

I expected only crickets. That mumbo jumbo magic incantation stuff can’t stand up to God’s word.

[CynicalBear]

>>Perhaps, a RC, Presby, Unitarian Mormon truck stop preachin’ agnostic zen sufi, one? Thank you.<<

Simply God's word from scripture doesn't suffice for you?

[CynicalBear]

You sure don’t use much scripture do you?

[verga]

Before the Diabetes I would have an occasional Scotch, now I limit myself to a sip of the Precious Blood at Mass every weekend.

I will bring what ever you like though, I keep plenty on hand for my friends that do partake.

[cuban leaf]

I will pray that he continues to ignore your “ministering” and stays true to his faith.

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It is his LACK of faith that is why the ministering was required.

But it is unlikely we will ever see them again. His wife died and he has always been a bit bitter regarding my wife because she honored her first husband’s wishes and scattered his ashes in a place in the cascade mountains that was to remain secret. Her former father-in-law has never really forgiven her for not revealing the place.

[CynicalBear]

>>There is Catholic, protestant, Jewish, Pagan, Atheist, and agnostic, there is nothing else.<<

Of course there is. There is the born again believer who is part of the body of Christ, the ekklesia, those called out who are children of the most high God.

[metmom]

Of course there is. There is the born again believer who is part of the body of Christ, the ekklesia, those called out who are children of the most high God.

Amen, brother.

[Salvation]

Just tell your father in law to sit down with a priest and girt that question answered.

[avenir]

“I will pray that he continues to ignore your “ministering” and stays true to his faith.”

He HAS stayed true, thus being deprived of the confidence he should have all due to the finished work of Christ. Doubt and fear haunt when we think salvation depends on us.

[Mark17]

I am not too thrilled with type 2 myself. What a king size hassle.

[cuban leaf]

Just tell your father in law to sit down with a priest and girt that question answered.

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That was the problem. He already had.

[cuban leaf]

Just tell your father in law to sit down with a priest and girt that question answered.

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That was the problem. He already had.

Problem is that my wife and I strongly believe in the power of YOPIOS, and she was mainly trying to get him to read the word himself, but he thinks he’s too stupid to understand it. It’s what he’s been taught for all of his 85+ years in the church.

It’s very sad.

[Mad Dawg]

Not when discussing something else, no.

Would I want an automobile mechanic to look to Scripture for the procedure to replace a head gasket? Do I want a math professor to teach only the math found in Scripture? 2

[CynicalBear]

>>Would I want an automobile mechanic to look to Scripture for the procedure to replace a head gasket?<<

This is a religion thread not a mechanics thread.

>>Do I want a math professor to teach only the math found in Scripture?<<

It isn't a math thread either.

The discussion was the fable of "transubstantiation". Do you consider that mechanics or math?

[Mad Dawg]

There is no essential exclusionary difference from the gift of faith in Christ’s unfailing love and all-sufficient merit, on the one hand, and sound ecclesiology on the other.

I hope the “ministering” is “pro-Love” without being “anti-Church.”

[Mad Dawg]

Do you know wht an analogy is?

[Mad Dawg]

RN, what do you think of the OP? You posted it. Why?

I did it, and you, the courtesy of reading it carefully and responding seriously. I spent the most of my few words in that response addressing his argument from the Chalcedonian Definition.

I don’t know what it is we are doing here.

[CynicalBear]

>>Do you know wht an analogy is?<<

"transubstantiation" can't be defended with scripture so you resort to human reasoning? Doesn't wash.

[CynicalBear]

>>and responding seriously.<<

Sounded mostly like nether world speak to me. Or maybe pagan mysticism.