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Life: Can we Catholics handle the truth?
Sioux City Journal ^ | July 12, 2015 | Rick Bertrand

Posted on 07/18/2015 4:45:11 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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I am writing specifically to you, my Democratic friends, and I am asking you as a fellow Catholic to please finish this article, then judge. Please. The uncomfortable truth is that neither well-intended prayer, nor Saturday morning marches nor financial donations will end the practice of abortion. This mission is no longer about awareness or science; it is about will, our Catholic will, as this fight for the unborn rests irrefutably at the ballot box....

....In Iowa, there are approximately 3.1 million people. Statistics from the Iowa Catholic Conference show that approximately 16 percent, or just under 500,000 Iowans, are declared Catholics, and approximately 53 percent of Caucasian Catholics and 67 percent of Latino Catholics identify and vote with the Democratic Party....

....As Catholics, how can we collectively sit in the pew and pray for life, then stand at the ballot box and individually vote against it? If this is making some uncomfortable, good. If this reads judgmental, it should. I believe we Catholics must recognize the solution, and work the problem. Any priest or member of our clergy who is voting with the Democratic Party is not leading by example, and simply living and preaching a lie.

1 posted on 07/18/2015 4:45:11 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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2 posted on 07/18/2015 4:49:38 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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From a secular source:

http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/opinion/columnists/other-voices-life-can-we-catholics-handle-the-truth/article_f8b833a5-2836-5b89-8d9d-875cfe7bcf5c.html

Their opinion?????? LOL!


3 posted on 07/18/2015 4:58:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Are there more Catholic Democrats or Catholic Republicans in America?


4 posted on 07/18/2015 5:02:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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The truth for Catholics is contained herein.


5 posted on 07/18/2015 5:02:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Do you consider that superior to the Douay-Rheims version?


6 posted on 07/18/2015 5:13:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Salvation

The question is related to and relevant to the thread topic. Are there more Catholic Democrats or Catholic Republicans in America?


7 posted on 07/18/2015 5:31:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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I would safely guess democrats. Just as there are more mainline (moderate/liberal) Christians in total here, than conservative biblical Christians. Regular church attendence is somewhat of a marker, as the conservative members tend to frequent masses/services more than liberals do.


8 posted on 07/18/2015 5:38:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I bet the pol-agents have specific records. They seem to have whatever data they need to target demographics.


9 posted on 07/18/2015 5:53:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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My parents are South Omaha Democrats and they’ll moan and wail about abortion but still pull the lever. As a conservative I have issues with the Republican party but none of them are fundamentally foundational or value based like abortion. I even have an aunt that is a nun that loves Obama. I just don’t get it.


10 posted on 07/18/2015 5:56:21 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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You have to go beyond politics to end abortion, straight to Jesus. This from [the late] Father John A. Hardon:

“There is no stopping abortion without an ocean of grace from Jesus Christ. No way will human means stop abortion. The principal source of this grace is the Holy Eucharist.”

http://adorationrocks.com


11 posted on 07/18/2015 5:56:41 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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I bet the pol-agents have specific records. They seem to have whatever data they need to target demographics.

34% of weekly Mass attending Catholics are Democrats, and an additional 19% are not affiliated with a party but lean toward the Democrats (53% identifying or leaning as Democrats). 28% of weekly attenders are Republicans and an additional 17% lean toward being a Republican (43 percent identifying or leaning as Republicans). Thus Democrats have a 10% point edge among weekly attendees, Catholics who attend Mass less than weekly are even more likely to be a Democrat rather than a Republican. http://cara.georgetown.edu/NewsandPress/PressReleases/pr061808.pdf

91% of faculty and administrators from America’s top 23 Catholic universities who contributed to presidential campaigns in 2012 gave to President Obama. 89.6% of all 928 donors contributed to Obama, versus 10.3% who gave to Romney. Employees of the Catholic schools contributed $449,229 to President Obama while giving just $70,304 to Republican nominee Mitt Romney. Of the 826 individuals who donated over $200 to the two major candidates, 748 gave to President Obama’s campaign while 78 contributed to Romney. Based on official Federal Election Commission data made available by OpenSecrets.org; http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4529


12 posted on 07/18/2015 6:20:04 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: mlizzy; metmom; boatbums; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
“There is no stopping abortion without an ocean of grace from Jesus Christ. No way will human means stop abortion. The principal source of this grace is the Holy Eucharist.”

That must be why evangelicals are far and away more conservative than Caths overall, which she counts and trreats as membees in life and in death. See above post for starters.

13 posted on 07/18/2015 6:22:40 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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Thanks. That small 10% difference is interesting. Apparently more Catholic Republicans fail to vote than Catholic Democrts since such a significant percentage of democrats get the Catholic vote.


14 posted on 07/18/2015 6:24:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mean Daddy

It just proves when you don’t explain that socialism wants to destroy Christians and the church, and has done so historically everywhere it’s been done, and it ought to be (and its adherents) ought to be considered mortal enemies,

you get people like your nun aunt.

It is extremely sad.


15 posted on 07/18/2015 6:28:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Salvation

The author is a Catholic politician. That means the “source” is him, not the paper per se. The fact is, Salvation, one of the cruelest burdens my family bears is the complicity of my extended family in abortion, and they are Roman Catholic. They pushed it on someone who didn’t want it. They did exactly what this author complains about. You may be moved to laughter because you do not find the source credible, but to me what he describes is entirely credible and an ongoing source of grief and sorrow to me that will never entirely disappear until this earthly life is over.

Peace,

SR


16 posted on 07/18/2015 6:36:50 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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No..they can not even defend their faith. A post that tried to teach how the magisterial worked was pulled because of that inability.. pathetic.The religion forum is all Rominist proselytizing all the time. They are scared to death of actually having to defend their heresy


17 posted on 07/18/2015 6:42:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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More Catholic LIBERALS ..


18 posted on 07/18/2015 6:43:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Yes, about that article, could you send me the link? I’d like to start keeping these things preserved on my system in the event of future acts of censorship.

Peace,

SR


19 posted on 07/18/2015 6:47:28 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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Isn’t Iowa the state of that sterling Catholic, Dungheap Harkin?


20 posted on 07/18/2015 7:08:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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