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Alinsky Acolytes at the Vatican
America's Survival ^ | July 24, 2015 | Elizabeth Yore

Posted on 07/25/2015 2:43:03 PM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 07/25/2015 2:43:03 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 07/25/2015 2:44:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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What is going on at the Vatican? Why are the Church Fathers actively embracing individuals who are virulent opponents of Church moral teachings? One of the Vatican advisors is Jeffrey Sachs, who has been invited 7 times to keynote Vatican eco-conferences and draft papal documents! For the last 25 years, Sachs led and promoted legalized abortion and population control in his various roles at the UN, including his latest as director of Sustainable Development Goals. This papal advisor defies any rational defense, and confounds Catholics as a theological and moral head scratcher.
3 posted on 07/25/2015 2:47:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Blaming that tired-ass Alinsky crap for everything is getting old.

Mockery existed for thousands of years before Alinsky.


4 posted on 07/25/2015 2:48:31 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

So has Satan. Do you ignore him also?


5 posted on 07/25/2015 2:50:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t wail about Satan or Alinsky every time someone uses mockery.


6 posted on 07/25/2015 2:54:54 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

This is simply appealing to human nature. It is essentially what Trump has done with illegal immagration.......and it is working.

The narrative is we should all feel sorry for these poor folks and the hell holes they live in.....so they need to come here. He has turned the arguement on it’s head and he average joe is coming around to exactly how devastating this is for America. Improving the lives of others has nothing to do with them coming here.


7 posted on 07/25/2015 3:15:43 PM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: humblegunner

You’re wailing about something, aren’t you?


8 posted on 07/25/2015 3:17:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Thanks for mentioning Satan. You say Alinsky was the founder of community organizing, which is a blatant lie and not worthy of a FR post. Alinsky says Satan was the first community organizer. Certainly there were community organizers at the Tower of Babel, and throughout Biblical History, Greco-Roman history and probably every human history.

What Alinsky did was act as aggregator to pull together the tactics into a couple books and thousands of classes and mentorships.

Like a hammer or any tool, the tactics are ideologically neutral for the most part. Both the Pope, Rush, Hilary and Trump ridicule the opposing voices. Both left and right lie. eg say someone is the founder when he isn’t.

Currently the anti-illegal immigration rhetoric is mostly based on precisely the same Malthusian-Guttmacher premises that are the basis for extreme environmentalism.

It should also be noted that Alinsky ideas have dominated major portions of the Catholic Church since the early 60s with special mention to the historically largest archdiocese that provides more money to the Vatican than any other, namely the archdiocese of Chicago whose religious are mostly extremist Alinsky.

And, of course, Maryland, the historically Catholic state gave us Alinskyite Msgr Geno Baroni who created the Mortgage crisis based on Alinsky tactics.


9 posted on 07/25/2015 3:17:49 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: ebb tide

Blaming Alinsky.. or rather CREDITING him.. for basic human nature is stupid.

Mockery is a part of man, always has been.

Check your bible.. which I think predates Alinsky by a couple of years.


10 posted on 07/25/2015 3:20:10 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: spintreebob
You say Alinsky was the founder of community organizing, which is a blatant lie...

I said no such thing.

11 posted on 07/25/2015 3:30:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: humblegunner

Alinsky dedicated his book, “Rules for Radicals”, to Lucifer.

I’m sorry you don’t see the connection.


12 posted on 07/25/2015 3:35:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

He could have copied “See Spot Run” and dedicated it the same way..

You give a lot of credence to his scribblings. I don’t.


13 posted on 07/25/2015 3:38:49 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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14 posted on 07/25/2015 3:44:18 PM PDT by BlueDragon ("Another d-mn'd thick, square book! Always, scribble, scribble, scribble! Eh! Mr. Gibbon?")
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To: ebb tide

Is there a process for impeaching a pope?


15 posted on 07/25/2015 3:47:18 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: humblegunner

No worries.

I give no credence to Satan nor Alinksy’s or your writings. They all are the same.


16 posted on 07/25/2015 3:49:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Yet you referenced Alinsky’s as relevant.

True, weak minded lemmings might find them to be so.


17 posted on 07/25/2015 3:53:58 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: ebb tide
Are Catholics to remain silent when the Vatican opens the bronze doors of St. Peter’s to population control disciples and abortion proponents like Jeffrey Sachs, Hans Schellnhuber, Naomi Klein, Ban Ki Moon, Governor Jerry Brown, NY Mayor Bill de Blasio?

And let's not forget Margaret Archer, fiendish president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences.

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"A row has broken out between the most senior woman at the Vatican and an American pro-life advocate...

...“I am appointed by the Pope and responsible directly to him. I’m afraid that leaves you and your cohort out in the cold,” she said...

...She went on to say: “Why are we not allowed to speak to Jeffrey Sachs or the Secretary General of the UN?” Pointing out that Pope Francis had invited Ban Ki-moon to a private audience, she asked Dr Gennarini: “Do you really have a higher moral standard than the Pope? Or is your own minimalistic version of the Creed, consisting of the single item: ‘We believe in the ethical depravity of abortion’ considered to be an improvement?”

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/06/01/vatican-official-hits-back-at-pro-life-criticis-over-un-invitation/

18 posted on 07/25/2015 3:57:33 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
On the population control -- ask them this.


G. K. Chesterton

"Surplus population"

"SCROOGE is not only as modern as Gradgrind but more modern than Gradgrind. He belongs not only to the hard times of the middle of the nineteenth century, but to the harder times of the beginning of the twentieth century; the yet harder times in which we live. Many amiable sociologists will say, as he said, "Let them die and decrease the surplus population." The improved proposal is that they should die before they are born.

"It is notable also that Dickens gives the right reply; and that with a deadly directness worthy of a much older and more subtle controversionalist. The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him whether he is the surplus population; or if he is not, how he knows he is not. That is the answer which the Spirit of Christmas gives to Scrooge."

~G.K. Chesterton: Introduction to A Christmas Carol. (1922)

19 posted on 07/25/2015 4:00:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide; humblegunner

well...

At least he ain't no blogpimp.

No matter what, he'll always have that going for him.

Bring Me Little Water Silvie

20 posted on 07/25/2015 4:02:35 PM PDT by BlueDragon ("Another d-mn'd thick, square book! Always, scribble, scribble, scribble! Eh! Mr. Gibbon?")
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