Posted on 07/26/2015 12:28:39 PM PDT by metmom
That’s NOT from God.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore NO more condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.
Yes, I inow it's not. I am working on it. 😇 I suppose if I was an unbeliever, nothing would bother me, so it's good that sin bothers me, but shouldn't get me down to a point that it makes me depressed. 😎
**http://www.keylife.org/authors/steve-brown
Hmmmm**
You say, “Hmmmm”, as though there is something suspect in the author’s message.
It’s actually plainly clear:
The Holy Ghost (a requirement for being born again) was not going to come until the Lord went away.
Jesus commanded conversion by being born again. Before he went away, He told his apostles how to preach it. All of the Lord’s commissions (found at the end of the four gospels) point to Acts 2:38.
I’m sure this author is a nice guy, and even knows a lot of scripture, But he, like so many, didn’t go there. It’s hard to preach an ‘upper room’ experience if one hasn’t been to the ‘upper room’.
Oh good, then we aren't responsible for our own actions....I love it that way
I posted very early on this thread and apparently you objected to something I said...what was it???
**Romans 4: 1-8 NASB**
Paul is addressing the works of the Law as not being able to wash away sin. Romans 4:3 is from Gen. 15:6. Abraham proved his faith by:
moving himself, his family and hired help, tents and other hardware, untold head of livestock, a few hundred miles (the hard way),
building an altar upon arrival in Sichem,
building another altar near Bethel,
escaping famine while in Egypt, then returned to the promised land (over 400 miles round trip the hard way),
building another altar in the plain of Mamre,
kicking serious butt almost all the way to Damascus (the hard way, nearly 400 miles round trip,...and returning with the spoil, which he didn’t keep),
was blessed by Melchizedek, king of Salem.
THEN, we finally get to Gen 15:6, which is referred to in Rom. 4:3.
The woman with the issue of blood pressed through the crowd to touch the hem of the Lord’s garment, and was healed. She wasn’t healed just thinking that, she was healed when she physically proved her faith, and pressed through. To which the Lord said; “Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole”. (from Matt. 9:22)
**Our sins are covered by the blood of Christ.**
His blood is applied by being buried with him in baptism (see Acts 2:38).
I have no clue at all what you said. The post was made and removed in a very short amount of time and since I do not monitor every thread all the time, I missed it.
I wouldn’t have known at all that you even posted except for a reply someone else made to you.
Y’all need to take a deep breath and relax.
Based on the posts I’ve seen, it seems like y’all Catholics are wound a little to tight at the moment. Maybe backing off since we non-Catholics are trying to stay out of your way would help. We can’t do it if y’all are going to keep chasing us down.
**Oh good, then we aren’t responsible for our own actions....I love it that way**
Jesus used sarcasm when he greeted Nathanael (”Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no guile!”), proving it to be an acceptable means of communication. IMO, you should enter a ‘general discussion; theology’ thread by using scriptural debate as your means of discussion. It’s also the tone, don’t ya see?
John 1:47
I forgot the chapter and verse for the previous post. Duh!
Maybe I sometimes tend to beat myself up with guilt, more than I should.
“I posted very early on this thread and apparently you objected to something I said...what was it?”
If a post of yours is removed from a thread, do not try to hunt down the poster who you assume objected.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
You are correct sir.
bump
That was literally true for Paul. He was probably a kid when Jesus was killed.
And 2000+ years later ... it applies to us as well. How many of our sins were still yet future when Christ died for us? Answer ... all of them.
From Genesis 15:1-6
After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying, “Do not fear, Abram, I am a shield to you; Your reward shall be very great.” 2Abram said, “O Lord GOD, what will You give me, since I am childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?” 3And Abram said, “Since You have given no offspring to me, one born in my house is my heir.” 4Then behold, the word of the LORD came to him, saying, “This man will not be your heir; but one who will come forth from your own body, he shall be your heir.”
5And He took him outside and said, “Now look toward the heavens, and count the stars, if you are able to count them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.”
6Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.
Context in understanding the Word is your friend....
The woman with the issue of blood pressed through the crowd to touch the hem of the Lord’s garment, and was healed. She wasn’t healed just thinking that, she was healed when she physically proved her faith, and pressed through. To which the Lord said; “Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole”. (from Matt. 9:22)
Jesus said it was her faith that made her well.
Go back to Matt 8:5-13 with the account of the Centurion. He believed Jesus could heal his servant from afar. No physical contact needed.
In both instances it was the faith of these two individuals that resulted in the healing.
Faith is what always pleases God.
Now, back to Acts. Go to Acts 10 with Peter and Cornelius. While Peter was preaching the Holy Spirit came upon those who were listening to the message (Acts 10:44).
It was at this point they were saved. Peter then ordered them to be baptized (Acts 10:47).
Without faith in Christ, getting baptized only makes you a wet sinner.
The blood of Christ, offered as a final, one time sacrifice, covers all of the sins of the believer.
If not, Colossians 2:13-14 will need to be removed from the Word, as would a lot of other verses on our forgiveness.
When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross (Colossians 2:13-14 NASB).
For the believer in Christ, our sins have been taken out of the way and nailed to the cross.....and that is where they remain and will remain.
You have a gift for succinctness.
HMMMmmm...
You may have shoes on the wrong feet.
Repost it; as I’ve missed it.
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