Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What is the source of the Church’s authority?
http://catholicsay.com ^ | June 2, 2015

Posted on 07/26/2015 7:30:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241 next last
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” (Phil. 4:13)
1 posted on 07/26/2015 7:30:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

I am a born-bred Catholic, BUT I take my wisdom from the Bible and I believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit...anything else, not so much...The Catholic Church is run by humans, so therefore humans make mistakes, God doesn’t....


2 posted on 07/26/2015 7:38:36 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Thankfully, these lies about the Catholic church continue to be easily countered. “Mary worship,” along with so many other non-Scriptural things Catholics do, are perversions the Bible does not support.

Have a good day.


3 posted on 07/26/2015 7:39:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Recall that Paul had to correct Peter. Not a good claim to Peter being the rock.


4 posted on 07/26/2015 7:57:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet
Gospel Mk 6:7-13

Jesus summoned the Twelve and began to send them out two by two and gave them authority over unclean spirits. He instructed them to take nothing for the journey but a walking stick— no food, no sack, no money in their belts. They were, however, to wear sandals but not a second tunic. He said to them, “Wherever you enter a house, stay there until you leave. Whatever place does not welcome you or listen to you, leave there and shake the dust off your feet in testimony against them.” So they went off and preached repentance. The Twelve drove out many demons, and they anointed with oil many who were sick and cured them.

5 posted on 07/26/2015 7:58:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HarleyLady27
Good on you, HL

"The Church" (as a body of believers, not as a hierarchy) has no authority

6 posted on 07/26/2015 7:59:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

What lies.

See the Scriptures about authority.


7 posted on 07/26/2015 8:00:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

You say the Twelve is/was The Church ?


8 posted on 07/26/2015 8:00:34 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Yeah, I have, and there’s no “Pope” or mention of the Catholic church in there. There’s also no Mary worship or support for Peter being the first El Papa.”

There’s also no support for praying to “Saints,” as the Church’s members were the actual saints. Nothing supports intersession by anyone outside of Christ.

This always provides an excellent opportunity to politely skewer the standard Catholic superiority complex.

Cheers.


9 posted on 07/26/2015 8:07:12 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

Jesus plainly told Peter that he was giving him the keys to the kingdom.

Peter made use of the keys on the day of Pentecost, one of the greatest events in history.

However any one who works in the real world will soon learn that if some one has to argue about if they are in charge or not IS NOT IN CHARGE


10 posted on 07/26/2015 8:13:21 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Recall that Paul had to correct Peter. Not a good claim to Peter being the rock.


Not quite true, Paul told the Galatians about such an incident.


11 posted on 07/26/2015 8:17:39 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: knarf

Christ sent the apostles out 2 by 2.

How many apostles were there?


12 posted on 07/26/2015 8:27:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone
Recall that Paul had to correct Peter. Not a good claim to Peter being the rock.

It is sufficient for those who believe the word of the Messiah.

He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Matthew, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verse forty,
Matthew, Catholic chapter sixteen, Protestant verses eighteen to nineteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses twenty seven to twenty eight,
Romans, Catholic chapter eleven, Protestant verse eighteen,
Revelation, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verses seven to fourteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

13 posted on 07/26/2015 8:29:01 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ravenwolf

The Church has no authority beyond which each of us grants it. It’s a completely voluntary relationship. It’s no different than a country club. You can withdraw your membership and stop paying dues at any time.


14 posted on 07/26/2015 8:31:21 PM PDT by huckfillary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: huckfillary

The Church has no authority beyond which each of us grants it. It’s a completely voluntary relationship. It’s no different than a country club. You can withdraw your membership and stop paying dues at any time.


True.


15 posted on 07/26/2015 8:51:31 PM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: HarleyLady27

“I am a born-bred Catholic, BUT I take my wisdom from the Bible and I believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit”.

It’s great being Catholic. Peace be with you.


16 posted on 07/26/2015 9:00:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Paul was not one of the original 12 and never met Jesus.


17 posted on 07/26/2015 9:02:02 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ravenwolf
Not quite true, Paul told the Galatians about such an incident.

So are you implying that Paul misrepresented the incident?

18 posted on 07/26/2015 9:14:12 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: af_vet_1981

From Catholic.org, Matthew 16:

22 Then, taking him aside, Peter started to rebuke him. ‘Heaven preserve you, Lord,’ he said, ‘this must not happen to you.’

23 But he turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle in my path, because you are thinking not as God thinks but as human beings do.’

http://www.catholic.org/bible/book.php?id=47&bible_chapter=16

I guess Peter’s demand didn’t bind Jesus in Heaven from not being crucified. It also appears that Jesus said that Peter was Satan.

This is your first Pope? Really?


19 posted on 07/26/2015 9:22:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: NKP_Vet

“Paul was not one of the original 12 and never met Jesus.”
Not in Jesus humanity anyway.


20 posted on 07/26/2015 9:24:58 PM PDT by the_daug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson