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To: LearsFool
"Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I gave order to the churches of Galatia, so also do ye. Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come." - 1 Cor. 16:1-2

Sorry....no cigar. Paul says nothing about Sunday in this passage...but he does reference the seventh day Sabbath:

2Κατὰ down/according to/as per (+acc), against (+gen) μίαν one (acc) { σαββάτων sabbaths (gen) ἕκαστος each (nom) ὑμῶν you(pl) (gen) παρ’ frοm beside (+acc,+gen,+dat) ἑαυτῷ self (dat) τιθέτω let-him/her/it-be-PLACE-ing! , θησαυρίζων while TREASURE UP-ing (nom) ὅ τι who-/whom-/whichever (nom|acc) { ἂν ever ♦ ἐὰν if-ever } εὐοδῶται he/she/it-should-be-being-PROSPER-ed , ἵνα so that / in order to /because μή not , ὅταν whenever ἔλθω I-should-COME , τότε then { λογίαι collections (nom|voc); eloquent ([Adj] nom|voc) ♦ λογεῖαι collections (nom|voc) } γίνωνται they-should-be-being-BECOME/HAPPEN-ed .

He is telling the folks to set aside offerings on one of the Sabbaths (μίαν σαββάτων) and when he comes by on his way to Jerusalem (for Pentecost) they'll be there waiting for him. Nothing is said about Sunday although most Catholic/Protestant translations would like you to believe that.

σαββάτων is Greek for Sabbaths (plural) and Paul is speaking about the seven "Counted" Sabbaths between Pesach and Shavuot [Leviticus 213:15-16]. It called the "Count of the Omer."

I'll address the rest of your passages in another post...... so as not to make them too long.

40 posted on 08/06/2015 3:41:26 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Diego1618

That should be [Leviticus 23:15-16]. Sorry..........


45 posted on 08/06/2015 3:50:50 PM PDT by Diego1618 (Put "Ron" on the Rock!)
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To: Diego1618
We can tell what the Greek phrase "mia sabbaton" means from passages like Matt. 28:1:

"Now late on the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week (mia sabbaton), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre."

If "mia sabbaton" meant the Sabbath day, then this passage would be saying: "Now late on the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the sabbath day..." - which would be nonsense. No, what Matthew is telling us here is that the week was at an end. And what comes next? The first day of the week.

Perhaps the misunderstanding arises from confusing the seventh day with the seven-day week. Note the Pharisee's use of "sabbaton" when he says, in Luke 18:12,

"I fast twice in the week (sabbaton)"

If "sabbaton" meant the Sabbath, then he would be saying, "I fast twice on the Sabbath" - which again wouldn't make sense. (Unless he's "fasting" between breakfast and lunch, and then "fasting" again between lunch and dinner! ;-)

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The Jews also wanted to bind the keeping of the Law of Moses, with its feast days, Sabbath-keeping, dietary laws, circumcision, etc. The apostle Paul strove with them all through his preaching career, even after the question had been settled by Christ's inspired men in Acts 15.

Finally Paul simply warns the saints against such men, with words such as these to the Colossians:

"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day: which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ's." - Col. 2:16-17

Which would you rather cling to, the shadow or the thing which casts the shadow? It would certainly be strange to cling to the shadow and ignore the thing casting the shadow. But it's what the Jews did whom Paul warned the disciples about.

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As for when those ordinances came to an end, it was when the new covenant came into effect. This was foretold by Jeremiah in Jer. 31:31:

"Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah"

Most all the book of Hebrews is a contrast between the old covenant and the new, in which the superiority of the new is demonstrated time and again. Interspersed are warnings upon warnings against returning to the old covenant.

If you like, we can look deeper into that book and see those comparisons/contrasts.
51 posted on 08/06/2015 5:13:20 PM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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