Let's think about this for a second. John 14 teaches that Christ is in the Father, and that the Father is in Him. But Christ also says here that we are in the Father as well.
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
1) So Jesus is in the Father.
2) The Father is in the Son.
3) We are in the Son.
4) And the Son is in us.
5) And we are, consequently, in the Father also.
6) And the Father is in us.
Does this mean that I can declare myself to be Almighty? May I receive worship, as Christ constantly does (Mat_14:33, Mat_28:9, Mar_5:6 etc etc)? (Though Christ forbids worship to anyone but God alone in Matt 4:10.) May I forgive sins as only God does? May I be credited with creating the universe, as Christ is?
These questions make it pretty clear the folly of your shallow reading of those verses.
Well, with your co-equal, co-powerful, separate and distinct ‘first’ and ‘second’ persons of God.........What pray tell did the Father make?
This question is brought on as a result of confusion over the roles and distinct nature of the three persons. The Son is equal with the Father, but has the nature of being etnerally begotten and carrying out the perfect will of the Father. The Father decrees, and it is the Son who then goes forth and makes, "upholding all things by the word of His power" (Heb 1:4). The Holy Spirit, in turn, has the nature of eternally proceeding from both the Father and the Son (John 15:26, Romans 8:9, Galatians 4:6), and is called both the Spirit of God and the Spirit of the Son. He also had a role in creation, in creating life, and adorning the heavens (Job 26:13, Psalm 33:6).
So the answer to the question is, "what did the Father make?" The Father, Son and Holy Spirit all created the world. They just had different roles in that creation. I'll also add that having different roles-- for example, that the Son goes forth and fulfills the will of the Father-- does not make Him any less divine. The scripture is clear that Christ is uncreated.
My words are not a separate and distinct person from me. They don’t come from my body. They come from my mind. God gave me a body to express the words that come to my mind.
So we rightly cannot say that the Word of Zuriel is both with Zuriel and is Zuriel. But the scripture clearly teaches this of God, and trying to force God into a box by comparing him to your own limitations is absurd.
That said, I have often thought that a human being is a kind of trinity. We are Mind, body and soul. The mind decrees, the body is our image and the part of us that puts into action the will of the mind, and the soul grants us life and ability. Though this is not a correct metaphor, because the Holy Spirit does not grant life to the Father and Son.
So did the Father just put the Son’s words in a hard drive somewhere, until the Son needed them?
You're taking the word "Word" literally, as if Christ is literally some kind of sound vibration coming out of the Father's mouth. According to the Cambridge Commentary of the Bible, the word Logos "has its origin in the Targums, or paraphrases of the Hebrew Scriptures," and is the equivalent of God's Wisdom. In Greek, Logos would refer to the faculty of reason. Even here, however, I would hesitate to take it so literally, as neither wisdom nor the faculty of reason is itself a "Person," but Christ clearly is. Logos is simply yet another name of the Son.
See, he’s speaking the Words that were given from the Father (that dwells in him).
A completely ridiculous statement, with literally no logical reason to say it, almost like you are just making things up as you go along, vomiting up random words without care if they have any meaning. The phrase "I Am" is the name of God in the Old Testament, and expresses an eternal existence. That was why the Jews took up stones to kill Him as soon as He applied that name to Himself.
No. The omnipresent Father now has image to dwell in, to actually, physically, sit on a throne.
In other words, Christ must be a created being, or a created shell. But I've already demonstrated that Christ is eternal and uncreated.
**1) So Jesus is in the Father.
2) The Father is in the Son.
3) We are in the Son.
4) And the Son is in us.
5) And we are, consequently, in the Father also.
6) And the Father is in us.**
You downplay the expressions, that the Lord uses, to show how completely the Father empowers him, and then admit the Lord’s declaration to be true with your questions:
**Does this mean that I can declare myself to be Almighty? May I receive worship, as Christ constantly does (Mat_14:33, Mat_28:9, Mar_5:6 etc etc)? (Though Christ forbids worship to anyone but God alone in Matt 4:10.) May I forgive sins as only God does? May I be credited with creating the universe, as Christ is?**
The next two paragraghs are just more of your personal interpretations. Just believe Jn 14:10. And read Jn 12:44-50 a few times.
**So we rightly cannot say that the Word of Zuriel is both with Zuriel and is Zuriel. But the scripture clearly teaches this of God, and trying to force God into a box by comparing him to your own limitations is absurd.**
Are you and your word two separate and distinct persons?
Jesus Christ had words of his own, after all he had to deny his will, and do the Father’s. “I come to do thy will, Oh God”.
If God speaks through you, like He did with the prophets, whose Words are they.
God spoke though the Son. Read JN 12:44-50 again, please.
**Logos is simply yet another name of the Son.**
Go ahead, use the phrase “God the Son”..........even though neither Jesus Christ, nor his apostles/writers of the NT EVER used it.
Are you wiser than Paul, who said that Christ is “the image of the invisible God”? Am I not correct when I say that you would not only use the phrase “God the Son”, but also “God the visible image”?
**A completely ridiculous statement, with literally no logical reason to say it, almost like you are just making things up as you go along, vomiting up random words without care if they have any meaning.**
Not only are you an apologist; you’re an entertainer. Is Don Rickles one of your favorite entertainers? (I admit I used to got a kick out of him, when I watched such shows years ago.)
Here’s a ridiculous question: Did the Son inherit his name, Jesus, and if so, from who?