Posted on 09/14/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
You post, I post, don’t take orders from a minion of Rome, especially one wearing short pants.
Show us where the word *eucharist* is found in Scripture and there Jesus told the disciples how to do it as we see in the Catholic mass today.
Sure you can. You can have Him dwelling in your heart by faith 24/7 and without having to eat Him to have it done.
“Show us where the word *eucharist* is found in Scripture and there Jesus told the disciples how to do it as we see in the Catholic mass today.”
He got nuttin’...
Which is why I pray for his soul.
Can you point to a verse in the Bible where is clearly states Mary was immaculate or that she remained a virgin?
Do not infer that another poster has called Jesus a liar.
So not broad brush all non-Catholic/Orthodox believers as calling Jesus a liar.
Watch your posts carefully and discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.
If you do not wish to debate a particular poster, do not reply or post to them.
This is an open thread and there will be posters that disagree with you.
“My “claims” are the gospel Tonto. Give it a break. Like I said before you mangle the scripture to fit what you what it to say.”
Personal and name calling.
Please review the guidelines for posting on the Religion Forum.
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There's no Scriptural "litmus test" that has ANYTHING to do with your "feelings".
Are you serious?? "Eucharisteo" is Greek for "thanksgiving," as in Matthew 26:27, "lambano poterion kai EUCHARISTEO ..."
Are you serious?? "Eucharisteo" is Greek for "thanksgiving," as in Matthew 26:27, "lambano poterion kai EUCHARISTEO ..."
I believe what metmom was indicating, please show in Scripture where eucharist is found as defined by roman catholicism where Christ is sacrificed again. That is not found in the New Testament.
Interestingly though, regarding the Bread of Life discourse, John only uses this word in John 6:23 and there it is in regards to Jesus feeding the multitude.
The only other place where the word is used in relation to the Lord's Supper is in 1 Corinthians 11:24.
In this passage we see Jesus representing His body by the bread and His blood by the wine.
In both cases He told us to do it in remembrance of Him and that everytime we partook we "proclaim the Lord's death until He comes." Acts 11:24-27
As He does not mention this is required for salvation we must conclude the roman catholic understanding of John 6 is also incorrect.
This is also illustrated in Luke 22:19 where He tells those gathered to "do this in remembrance of Him".
No, John makes it very clear what is required for salvation in John 20:31...these things have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
Show us where the word *eucharist* is found in Scripture
I see what you did now....you took something out of context in what appears to be an attempt to embarrass someone.
As least have the intellectual honesty to put ellipses (that's from a Greek word btw) to indicate you cut and paste her post.
MM's post is correct....you cannot point to the word eucharist and find it's use in the Bible as defined by roman catholicism.
” Can you point to a verse in the Bible where is clearly states Mary was immaculate or that she remained a virgin? “
Surely you jest!
It is made up out of whole pagan fabric.
” It never ceases to amaze how they twist Scripture to support what’s not there. And when it can’t be wrenched out of Scripture then the appeal to the consistently inconsistent ECFs.
It is a dilemma.
On one hand, they have many doctrines/teachings and practices that are pure paganism. They do not believe them and teach them because they originated in the scriptures.
Yet, by claiming to still be a church, they feel compelled to back into the scriptures and find some - any - support. Boy do they!
I point it out. They don’t ultimately care. They believe whatever their denomination teaches. They must. It is required. Instead of loving God with “all their mind”, they outsource it.
Despite this, I know there are some percentage of believers to be found in that denomination - as with Anglicans and Episcopols. Despite the accretions of pagan syncretism, God touches some. The wheat grows up amidst the tares.
Unfortunately, this is also true in evangelical churches. There are attendees who have never entrusted themselves to Christ. Never assume everyone believes.
We can speak. We can pray. The rest is up to God to open eyes and hearts.
The point is that God’s grace is not subjective or based on what you did, how much you gave, etc.
I was “born again” at the age of 15. I discovered the fullness of the Christian faith when I became a Catholic many years later. A contentment I had never known before. I had found the faith of Christ, the beauty of His church, and I pray daily for those that are still searching for the truth.
“I was “born again” at the age of 15. I discovered the fullness of the Christian faith when I became a Catholic many years later. A contentment I had never known before. I had found the faith of Christ, the beauty of His church, and I pray daily for those that are still searching for the truth.”
...yet you can’t say you know for sure that if you were to die tonight, you will immediately be in the presence of God and spend eternity in heaven??
Contentment is fine. We all like that.
It is not the same as eternal life. Do you have that?
Do you know for sure?
That's the real question.....If you were to die today, do you know for sure you would go to Heaven?
John 20:31 answers how we can know.
but these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ; the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.
John echoes this again in 1 John 5:13.
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.
Well, then, you shouldn’t have any trouble with the term *rapture* should you?
Yet if his opinions are valid against MacArthur then you should know of his opinions against Rome.
Mike Gendron’s ministry exposes Roman Catholicism as a false religion.
According to another article titled, Baptists and Liberation Theology, “In 1975, the Baptist Association of El Salvador founded a theological school in Santa Ana…which created…an openness to both sides of the war and to cooperation with Catholics for the public good.” Three decades ago, the Baptist Association of El Salvador was finding common ground with Catholics for the public good. True Christians are to separate from evil. They are not to cooperate with evil for the “public good. ”
Examples of John Macarthur fellowshipping with false Christians are too numerous to mention. A forward to his book, “The Gospel According to Jesus,” was written by J.I. Packer, Senior Editor of Christianity Today, and a signer of the Evangelical and Catholics Together Documents I and co-author of ECT II.
Many at Grace Church believe CS Lewis was a great Christian apologist. I have heard at least one leader at Grace Church state that the works of JRR Tolkien are “Christian.” JRR Tolkien was a Roman Catholic and a close friend of CS Lewis, who was Lutheran. According to “Hermetic Imagination: The Effect of the Golden Dawn on Fantasy Literature,” the works of Lewis and Tolkein were strongly influenced by their friendship with the English novelist, Charles Williams, who joined the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn in 1917. 90. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was a magical order in late 19th and early 20th century England to which many prominent figures belonged. This secret order, along with the Theosophical Society and the Rosicrucian Order, was one of the principle influences on 20th century occultism. - http://johnmacarthurexposed.blogspot.com/2009/10/transformation-of-john-macarthurs-grace.html
Actually, I could post some things I do not agree with MacArthur on, but which does not invalidate what he says about Rome.
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