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To: vladimir998

>>Let’s try that out: How much does it invalidate your claim? 70%? 45%? 92%? The simple fact is your claims don’t even make sense. That’s probably why you have been - apparently - completely unable to make an actual argument.

It invalidates the date. If I say that WW2 started in 1942, does that mean that WW2 never happened? Even you can see that your argument that one typographical error does not invalidate an entire argument.

>>No, the rest was also wrong. You made claims and used your mistaken “century” to help bolster those claims. The claims were wrong and the fact that you couldn’t even get the century rights shows why they were baseless: you apparently don’t know what you’re talking about.

Again, the century was wrong. Move on. Your only means of disputing the rest was that you did not approve of those facts.

>>Again, let’s try that out: If I accepted your mistaken century as fact would that make it factual? No, it would still be a mistake. Things are true because they are true. Your problem is you keep posting errors and erroneous claims as IF they were factual and when they are rejected for not being factual you then claim “all facts must be approved by YOU to be entered into evidence.” Start posting actual facts rather than you might be able to make an argument. That won’t happen now will it?

Your facts are as much in doubt as mine. In fact, all historical fact is colored by those who wrote the history, since neither of us are eyewitnesses.

>>And there you go again. Bigotry. You keep denying it and then you go the extra mile to prove it’s true.

No. That’s not bigotry. That’s ridicule. You are not a serious person so I’m not making fun of your church or fellow Catholics. I’m just making fun of YOU. I started out in this thread by accepting that your church is still a church. I never disputed that. I tried to have an adult discussion with you, but YOU made it turn ugly when you started claiming that all other churches are not real churches. You are the bigot. I’m just making fun of you now and have been for the past few days since you threw out the bigot ad hominem attack.

In fact, I only posted my initial comment in this thread because YOUR pope was running around talking like a Watermelon Environmentalist and the leftist press was eating it up like his socialism is proof that Christians should become good leftists. If he had kept his yap shut about things he knows nothing about and had stuck to issues like salvation through Jesus Christ, abortion, gay marriage, and divorce, then I would have had nothing bad to say about him, his visit, or his church.


142 posted on 10/01/2015 1:16:05 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

“It invalidates the date.”

So you only posted a date? That’s what you’re now claiming?

“If I say that WW2 started in 1942, does that mean that WW2 never happened?”

No, but since WWII started in 1939 in Europe and in 1941 for the U.S., if you had said it was 1942, that would show you had no idea of what you were talking about.

“Even you can see that your argument that one typographical error does not invalidate an entire argument.”

Except it wasn’t a typographical error.

“Again, the century was wrong. Move on. Your only means of disputing the rest was that you did not approve of those facts.”

You really didn’t post facts. You posted claims. And a wrong century.

“Your facts are as much in doubt as mine.”

Actually, no. Most likely I am the only one between us who has ever even studied this subject. Have you ever even read one book on the century in question - or even the one NOT in question? I bet you haven’t. Have you ever read even a single reputable book on the history of the Church? Have you ever read the writings of the Early Church Fathers? Any of them? Few to none, right?

“In fact, all historical fact is colored by those who wrote the history, since neither of us are eyewitnesses.”

And you talk about me sounding like a liberal? Look at you squirm there. You don’t post an argument and then you try to undermine someone else’s points by discounting everything by saying “all historical fact is colored by those who wrote the history, since neither of us are eyewitnesses”? Pathetic.

“No. That’s not bigotry. That’s ridicule.”

Ridicule from bigotry.

“You are not a serious person so I’m not making fun of your church or fellow Catholics. I’m just making fun of YOU. I started out in this thread by accepting that your church is still a church. I never disputed that.”

Your “acceptance” of the Church as a “church” is a meaningless point since the Church is the Church no matter what your opinion is. Can you make an argument of any kind?

“I tried to have an adult discussion with you, but YOU made it turn ugly when you started claiming that all other churches are not real churches.”

There’s nothing ugly about recognizing reality as it actually exists. Protestant sects CANNOT be Churches PRECISELY BECAUSE they are Protestant sects. I do not deny for a second that Protestant sects are “ecclesial communities” - that IS THE PROPER TERM. Look it up on google if you don’t know it. I also don’t deny that those “ecclesial communities” do some good in this world. But none of them are Churches and never can be Churches. They can’t be. It is a logical impossibility.

“You are the bigot. I’m just making fun of you now and have been for the past few days since you threw out the bigot ad hominem attack.”

Except I made no “bigot ad hominem attack.” I simply stated a fact. And you - proudly apparently - have been (by your own admission) “making fun” of me (as if that matters to me) because you (apparently again) know so little about the very thing you’re attacking that you took umbrage at a mere statement of fact. In the end, you’re only mocking yourself by apparently showing how little you know.

“In fact, I only posted my initial comment in this thread because YOUR pope was running around talking like a Watermelon Environmentalist and the leftist press was eating it up like his socialism is proof that Christians should become good leftists. If he had kept his yap shut about things he knows nothing about...”

Wouldn’t it be best for you to take your own advice there?

“...and had stuck to issues like salvation through Jesus Christ, abortion, gay marriage, and divorce, then I would have had nothing bad to say about him, his visit, or his church.”

And in the end, you still couldn’t even get the century right. And you think you’re making fun of me.


143 posted on 10/01/2015 7:46:25 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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