Posted on 10/12/2015 8:32:47 AM PDT by Salvation
also probably the billions of crime/police dramas on tv. we are swimming, on purpose, in hundreds of crime/police shows on tv. on purpose. for cops,on ‘purpose, and for us, on purpose.
Yeah, what man wants a lib woman screaming about her vagina, demanding abortion and pay better than his.....and she rants about the “war on women”, while he shudders at the obvious war on men that she is blind to. Yep, I can see how that would shut down any talk of marriage and family.
Whygive up trying to get it back? The other side doesnt just roll up anddie when stuff doesnt go their way. they double down. look how tht has served them the last fifty years being in their fights for the long haul. you have to really believe in what youre doing. make it a life mission.
whatever yor pet cause, or the thing you believe is the most important thing to fight for. it wont be the same for everyone. support other stuff and what others do, but focus on one thing as a mission and put your personal energies behind changing the stuff you just cannot abide being destroyed by the liberal socialists.
please be careful with Andy- He’s very subtle in his deviating from the word on many issues- You have to listen carefully to what and how he says things- most of his message does sound grounded I n the bible, however, you wil l find with careful listening that there is just something wrong with what he says at times- Again, it’s subtle, but it’s there- He’s also constantly saying “The bible is just a book- it’s not important- people In old testament didn’t even have the bible, it’s just a bunch of books all put together for convenience sake, and that’s not what’s important, your belief is what’s important etc etc etc- Listen for this and you will hear him constantly saying it- almsotl ike he’s trying ot drive people away from studying God’s word at times-
You can find an archive of his sermons online at the church he preaches at (who apparently told a gay dating couple they could not serve In church because they were still married to women and were ‘committing adultery’ by dating each other- the two got divorced from their wives, married each other, and now serve In another North Point Ministries church under that church- This isn’t because of andy, but it’s telling that andy still preaches at this church -
[[The most puzzling and shocking part of the message was the illustration and the account of the homosexual couple, however. The inescapable impression left by the account was that the sin of concern was adultery, but not homosexuality. Stanley clearly and repeatedly stressed the sin of adultery, but then left the reality of the homosexual relationship between the two men unaddressed as sin. To the contrary, he seemed to normalize their relationship. They would be allowed to serve on the host team if both were divorced. The moral status of their relationship seemed to be questioned only in terms of adultery, with no moral judgment on their homosexuality.]]
on the issue of Kentucky clerk he said:
[[“Evangelical pastor Andy Stanley leads North Point Ministries, the second largest church in the U.S. He told me he finds it “offensive that Christians would leverage faith to support the Kansas law.” He said, “Serving people we don’t see eye to eye with is the essence of Christianity. Jesus died for a world with which he didn’t see eye to eye. If a bakery doesn’t want to sell its products to a gay couple, it’s their business. Literally. But leave Jesus out of it.”]]
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/?/sf/page/31150
There’s more- but andy apparently has problems with the bible- He states for example that he believes in adam and eve not because the bible says they were real, but because Jesus said so- Stanley says this stuff all the time- Apparently not realizing that the bible IS the word of God, and the word of God- Stanley keeps downplaying the IS Jesus- Stanley keeps downplaying the importance of God’s word yet we know from God’s word that God’s word IS important
Timothy 3:16-17:
All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
[[But it’s also important to see that Jesus’ allusions to Adam and Eve derive from his belief in the authority of the Old Testament. As he assumes the historicity of Adam and Eve, he is at once affirming the total truthfulness and trustworthiness of his Bible—the Old Testament. ]]
From “Andy Stanley’s poison pill for the doctrine of scripture”
Jesus reaffirms the truthfulness of the bible, Stanley downplays the bible time and again-
Like I said- Andy’s ideology is very subtle, and casually listening to his sermons, many of us will miss these things he says- because we aren’t listening for them- but He IS saying them and even reiterating them time and time again
men do not want to marry someone who is constantly trying to be in control and fighting them on every little decision. there is one captain, not two. if they want to be the captain, they are on their own.
It used to be when marriage was honored more and women forced men to wait until marriage before engaging in sexual intercourse, men wanted to get married.
And what exactly are the men doing the same?
Certainly not gentlemen.
even dating the wrong type can get you messed up forever. vindictive, can cause you a whole lotta trouble.
a bit crass but old: Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.
i had a girl friend - friend - who we did stuff with for awhile, and she spent a decent amount of time each time bashing guys. i had to stop hanging out with her. and this was in the early 90s.
I have two sons who are apparently in the same boat. I say “apparently” because one is off at college, and I know he dates, but rarely and not seriously. The other one ... never. He cares about running and video games, nothing else.
100% true in that regard.
Plus there seems a huge lack of honesty, telling lies about the smallest issues. Makes no sense.
If you are honest and “decent” your a pushover, if your aloof and indifferent your a jerk.
If you try and walk the tightrope, you do not exist.
Add to that the extreme bias of marital law against men right now.
i was just addressing the issue from the perspective of wht men are running from marriage. But yes # 8 should have been that there are more gay men now...
Find a wife from overseas and get a pre-nup. American women (sorry ladies) are the worst in the world.
I have a 19 year old son and a 15 year old daughter. My son states he will NOT ever get married.... my 15 year old said she would “consider” it but under very strict guidelines (they know each other for years, he proves his faithfulness etc). Okay... I had a huge argument with my son over his opinion. Me: “don’t you ever want to find a nice girl? What about children? Don’t you want to share your life with someone? (and finally with me yelling) I don’t know why in the heck your are so jaded. Your father and I have been married 25 years and have known each other 30. We ARE still together”. Son’s response: “Mom.. you and Dad are the exception and not the rule”.
His comment silenced me (and yeah.. that isn’t EASY to do). He’s grown up in a generation where most of his friends are from broken home.. and kids talk to each other. The whole step parent fiasco, the split weekends, the arguing over who gets the kid for Christmas and the constant fighting. So.. I don’t blame this generation of people.. I blame MINE and the people a bit younger. We screwed it up and the children suffered.. and now we are all surprised and saddened by the statistic that young people aren’t interested in going through the torment that their parents did.
Will look at it more closel when I have time later this week.
Thanks.
I really don’t care, I’m not looking to marry a man, so it doesn’t concern me.
The state has made marriage a VERY bad proposition for any man, under all circumstances. There's simply little more than legal misery for those men who succumb.
And, for those who say "not all women are like that", I say BS. There's a BUNCH of otherwise Christian women out there who took their husbands and the father of their children to the cleaners...because they found out they could.
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