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Men Are More Disinclined to Marry Than Ever – A Reflection on a Serious Problem
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-11-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/12/2015 8:32:47 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: stanne
young women have basically been shamed into not demanding marriage...

several young women at my work....all gorgeous, smart and funny....live with these guys for years....some of them eventually married...

but I want to scream at them MAKE THEM COMMIT..THEY ARE USING YOU....but it would fall on deaf ears...

ah, the quaint old system of young men and women dating, falling in love, getting married and having children....

now,they move in together, have a baby, buy a house together and then maybe, maybe, get married

....of course there seems to be no church weddings anymore....

21 posted on 10/12/2015 8:59:11 AM PDT by cherry
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To: tioga

It’ll be even worse when ‘sex robots’ become common in 30-40 years.

Sure there’ll be laws by then allowing people to marry them.


22 posted on 10/12/2015 8:59:43 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Sioux-san

If they’re working for themselves they count as being in the workplace. And actually, I believe white men are still employed at a high rate. I’d guess that the massive number of minority men in prison or with criminal records explains a chunk of this.

More union guys finding ways to go out on disability probably contributes to it too (and they were guys with jobs). Maybe early retirement from that segment, too.


23 posted on 10/12/2015 9:00:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Army Air Corps

I’m pretty sure it must.


24 posted on 10/12/2015 9:00:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Salvation

Do not underestimate the utility of the “Nothing Box” ...


25 posted on 10/12/2015 9:00:38 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: elcid1970

Well not to be too philosophical, a bridegroom can get a whole lot more out of marriage than just footing a bill.

A guy needs to have a whole lot more maturity and introspection before getting intimately involved with a girl than what goes on in their young lives that we see now

Until he has good reason to get married it is just paying a bill. But girls could back off and let him grow up too


26 posted on 10/12/2015 9:01:19 AM PDT by stanne
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To: jpsb

I agree with your point. As someone who has seen their friends go through divorce... watching them lose almost everything, give up their homes, only get to see their kids every other weekend, etc. That’s hardly an incentive to get married, in the off chance that things don’t work out.


27 posted on 10/12/2015 9:01:26 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: Salvation
Speaking as a (young-ish) man, from my interactions with other guys -- there are legitimate concerns about the courts favoring women and so forth, but a great deal of the problem is rooted in selfishness and laziness. A lot of men just don't want to have a wife and kids. They don't want to put themselves out for a family, financially or personally. They're too lazy to put the necessary effort into maintaining relationships. They just don't feel like putting a family before themselves, spending money on a family that they'd rather spend on themselves, spending time on a family that they'd rather spend pursuing their own interests, they don't want to being tied-down or committed. And as the article notes, they can get milk without buying the cow. And of course, they find that women are every bit as selfish as themselves, and how can two selfish people commit to a sacrament that fundamentally requires you to put another person before yourself?

Ironically enough, guys I know who emphatically insist that they will never put themselves out in the slightest for a relationship, will walk through fire to help out one of their male friends. Our culture has cultivated a fundamental distrust, verging on contempt, between the sexes.

28 posted on 10/12/2015 9:02:23 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: SamAdams76

As a married father I’ve been “working like a girl” for a few years now, putting in the bare minimum hours (and boosting my hourly wage nicely, since I’m a salaried employee). I don’t want to be a girl, but I don’t want to work my arse off while affirmative-action females promoted to keep lawyers at bay work even less than the minimum workweek. The childless white women that complain about darker women rushing home to care for their children do the same thing, substituting cats, dogs, or aging parents instead. Women have found out that being a man wasn’t all they thought it would be...

I now believe one can have it all; I can take my children to school, to sports practices afterwards, help with their homework, etc., while serving as the primary breadwinner.


29 posted on 10/12/2015 9:04:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: knarf

[[The adults that ARE in church too often look no different than going shopping]]

Even many pastors look that waY Now- What a stark difference between Dr Charles Stanley, and his jean wearing, nearly anything goes son Andy Stanley- I won’t even listen to his son- He’s not a preacher, he’s a feel good therapist- Dr Stanley however gives a good solid message- nothing fancy- just straight word of God for htem ost part

Was talking with a friend who said they allow their kids to watch andy Stanley because ‘the kids like his teaching style’ and they find Dr Charles Stanley too dry- and ‘boring’ - so I decided to listen to a couple of Andy’s sermons and oh my word- what I heard was appalling- I got l ooking online, and some of his theology is WAY off- He’s trying to be a ‘friend to all’ and doesn’t condemn anyone- even looking the other way regarding gay couples apparently- (You can find his heresy ideology on gay marriage online- it’s appalling- )


30 posted on 10/12/2015 9:04:55 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Our culture has cultivated a fundamental distrust, verging on contempt, between the sexes.

Ever heard the term "battle of the sexes"?

Yes?

Who engages in battle?

ENEMIES, that's who!

Are Man and Woman naturally enemies? Is that what God had in mind when He create us?

NO! Not merely NO!, but HELL NO!!!!

And I chose those words deliberately ... because I know whence came the concept of a "battle of the sexes" ...

31 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Salvation

Contemporary US women don’t seem to like men all that much.

And, as far as my twenty-something sons are concerned, the feeling is mutual.


32 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:26 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Salvation

assume he is referring to men marrying women...the other seems to be on the rise


33 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:45 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: knarf
The female has ALWAYS been the mysterious one, but not anymore, so there's no intrigue to chase and hunt (sorry for the metaphore)

And women today don't seem to understand how valuable that mystery is. They act crass and tacky and think it's sexy. It just makes them look cheap.

34 posted on 10/12/2015 9:07:58 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Resolute Conservative

“I’d get down to the gates of Hell and Satan would JUMP OUT....RRROOAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!! Ah #@$#...you were married huh? Well, I guess there’s nothing much new for you here. Well, I’ll give you the nickel tour anyway....see that? That’s where we torment the soul.......OOOOOOOH! Say, you didn’t happen to see any single guys coming down the tunnel did you? I can scare the $#@# out of them. Oh &*(! ....you were married twice? Want a job? That qualifies you for the job placement program here in Hell...”

-Sam Kinison


35 posted on 10/12/2015 9:08:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

That’s true; the divide & conquer strategy of the Bolsheviks has worked wonders between the genders. I wouldn’t call the unmarried men lazy; these are the children of the earlier generation that saw divorce become commonplace, and they have heard all of the horror stories. I suspect they would have wives and children if they weren’t 100% aware that sheer boredom on the part of the wife can ruin them financially for decades and steal their children from them.

Trust me, if it wasn’t the deck loaded against men we’d have a lot of men griping about the decline of marriage - and that just isn’t happening. They’ll take the cheap shots from the enemedia about living in basements, playing video games and so forth - and they’ll retain their economic independence and happiness. As a married father, I understand; I don’t agree with them, but I understand.


36 posted on 10/12/2015 9:09:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Salvation

It’s even worse than Msgr. Pope says.


37 posted on 10/12/2015 9:12:13 AM PDT by Campion
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To: cherry

It is sick. What are the kids supposed to think, with their mothers acting so undignified. And the fathers treating the mothers in such a way?

The family protects kids and gives tgem an institution to belong to

Watch how modern culture dignifies animals and treats us like animals. It’s a big part of not respecting pur country not protecting our borders. And men are confused. They’re not protecting their mothers as their fathers treat them like hookers. They’re not protecting their sisters nor their girlfriends or wives. Women don’t realize how by taking on birth control as an institution and an acceptable way of life, thryvruin the world

Look at Germany, allowing young men to invade their country. They have given up on dignifying the family long ago


38 posted on 10/12/2015 9:12:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: tioga
Western men's sperm counts and testosterone levels have decreased so maybe that's part of the problem...

men just seem to want to flit around like Peter Pan...no responsibility, no children....

Men really have just abandoned their roles....its their doing...Playboy philosophy is so much simpler than actually having a loving wife and a raising children.

it all comes down to personal morals and obeying the commandments.....but you can't do that if porn is your God....

39 posted on 10/12/2015 9:12:50 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Salvation
I was always told: “Men: why buy the cow when the milk comes free”.....”Women: why buy the whole pig when you only get a little sausage”...
40 posted on 10/12/2015 9:14:24 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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