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To: af_vet_1981; HossB86
It was kind of you to respond to the challenge of explaining "context" - especially when another wouldn't.

So, are you saying that the context depends on the meaning of the word "we"?

How is it that the Holy Roman Catholic Church view Muslims as "separated brethren?" Is that because of Abraham and his son Ishmael- who was NOT the son of promise?

That's fascinating.

Again, it's good that YOU are willing to make your explanation. It's all very interesting.

206 posted on 10/15/2015 9:38:46 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
So, are you saying that the context depends on the meaning of the word "we"?

How is it that the Holy Roman Catholic Church view Muslims as "separated brethren?" Is that because of Abraham and his son Ishmael- who was NOT the son of promise?
    No, I did not write that. I explained the portion of the Catechism that some find confusing in context.
  1. The passages are dealing with the relationship of the holy catholic apostolic church with nonChristians. Separated brethren, as I wrote, are considered Christian (assuming they are in Protestant faith communities that have not apostasized into a nonChristian religion/cult) and are covered in a different passage other than those I linked to. For example, you might be considered among the separated brethren and regarded as a Christian by Catholics.
  2. The first people discussed who are not (yet) Christian are the Jewish people.
  3. The next group considered who are not (yet) Christian are those who believe in the Creator, chief among whom are Moslems.
  4. "We" includes the holy catholic apostolic church, the Jews, and those who profess faith in the God of Abraham (as do the Moslems), as having in common that all three profess to worship and adore the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That itself is the context of the relationship being discussed.

207 posted on 10/15/2015 10:13:26 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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