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To: Bryanw92

“LOL. The Church is the entire body of believers.”

Believers in what or Whom? All people believe in something. Are Lutherans and Mormons the same in their beliefs? No. Yet there were no Lutherans until 1520 - even though the Church already existed almost 1500 before them.

“The Roman Church is as much a sect as any other.”

A Church cannot be a sect. The two are mutually exclusive as words, ideas, and realities.

“It is merely the most successful sect, but it is not the first or oldest in existence.”

It is not a sect at all.


62 posted on 12/07/2015 2:03:23 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

>>Believers in what or Whom? All people believe in something. Are Lutherans and Mormons the same in their beliefs? No. Yet there were no Lutherans until 1520 - even though the Church already existed almost 1500 before them.

The Apostles Creed is a good reference for belief in what or whom.

Yes, Lutherans did not exist before 1520, but they exist as Christians after 1520. Where you worship isn’t very important when compared to who you worship.

>>A Church cannot be a sect. The two are mutually exclusive as words, ideas, and realities.

Then stop calling my church a sect. I am a Christian, just as you are a Christian. We are both part of the body of believers, the Invisible Church. For you to claim that Christ’s finished work on the cross is insufficient because we do not use the same rituals for worship is to deny Christ altogether. For you to claim that your traditions and rituals complete the work of Christ is ludicrous.


63 posted on 12/07/2015 2:21:15 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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