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To: BlueDragon

“Heresy compared to what?”

Truth.

“Compared to a corrupt Church which had all but entirely destroyed Christianity in the West, having slip-n-slide subtle change and addition morphed it into something yet else.”

Your comment is not even rational. All reputable historians agree that Christianity was alive and well BEFORE the heresy of Protestantism. There was no more corruption in the Church then than there is among Protestants or Catholics now.

“You are the one who is illogical, vladi. You still lose, and will keep losing.”

No, everything I said is logical - that’s probably why you don’t actually deal with it. I have not lost and won’t. I side with Truth. You don’t.


83 posted on 12/10/2015 10:44:27 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Sure it was.

There were highly placed individuals within the RCC who themselves wrote (in a joint letter to a pope) that the Church had been all but destroyed, in a sense, (by elements within the priesthood) themselves in that letter focusing merely upon the grotesque error of selling indulgences.

It can be argued that they did not go far enough in that letter, failing to delve into yet other considerations, but then again, one thing at a time I suppose --- and the letter which they wrote was subject to possibly facing opposition from others who had that pope's ear near to the same time. So they had to not put too much on the plate all at once, be circumspect, and take pains to not anger that 'pope' while including the then (by social conventions) prerequisite, smallish notes of groveling & flattering.

84 posted on 12/10/2015 12:12:55 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: vladimir998

You're living in a highly provincial (and severely limited) fantasy world if you believe that truth is entirely on your side of this discussion, and none of my own.

85 posted on 12/10/2015 12:16:39 PM PST by BlueDragon
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