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I wasnâ€™t sticking up for them, advocating them, I just mentioned that I enjoyed Dr Eugene Scott and sometimes Joel Olsteen.

So you're just making a pointless, irrelevant comment, and therefore you do not mean to defend their doctrines?

But then you say:

Obviously your interpretation of God and Faith are different from mine .

So then you do defend their doctrine but are just being evasive so you won't have to deal with its rightness or wrongness. Okay, fine.

Pointless, irrelevant, OK then why do you get your shorts so knotted up? Hit a nerve?

I will reiterate that I like Olsteen’s close.

Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins.

Come into my heart.

I make you my Lord And Saviour.

Do you have a problem with that?

So OK.

If it makes you feel better.

As Bobby Bare once said.

But boy I’m gonna sit right here and sip this beer all night

And if there’s somethin’ that you gotta gain to prove by winnin’ some silly fight

Well okay, I quit, I lose, you’re the winner.

I like Osteen and listen to him on XM radio when I'm driving around and usually watch on Sundays, too, Often a few times if his sermon has meaning for me, but sometimes I change the channel before it's over if not.

Osteen's material works great for helping me with my inner thoughts and judgments about my current situation, people, etc., my long term wants and goals, my general thoughts about and understanding of God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and helping me keep Him in my thoughts, praise and gratitude constantly.

His material has been very good for countering my inner darkness and the personal limitations that flow from it and reinforce it.

It's been the solid, practical advice and counsel I use for re-framing my perceptions of the moment and for keeping God first place and gratitude for Him and for all He has blessed me with (as opposed to complaining and begging) at the forefront of my thoughts, instead of sometimes in hind sight.

Osteen isn't the first place I go for Scripture, but he is my favorite for practical, daily application. This education is a process the same as any other education. You maybe far advanced or far behind so ymmv, but it works for me where I am right now.

He is my favorite because when I do as he suggests, I get the results he speaks of with his personal and Biblical examples.

I've been through a lot of big losses these last few years and Osteen's explanations, examples and things to do have helped me find a better perspective by developing a much closer relationship with, and understanding of, Jesus, His Father and Holy Spirit and how They work past, present and future.

I don't agree with every word he says, nor do I laugh at his opening joke every sermon, but I have gotten a lot of value, and the practical help when I needed it the most, from listening to his sermons and applying what he teaches.

You, too, might find something of value if you ever listen to one of his sermons.

Fwiw, the way you react to him is telling you a great deal about yourself, if you should ever be open to what it is saying, as well as to what Osteen is actually saying.