Biblical Basics about Mother Mary -- A Homily for the Second Sunday of the Year

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-16-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Salvation]

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[Salvation]

Monsignor Pope Ping!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

This is the least Biblical and most heretical article you’ve posted so far from Arch...Pope.

[Salvation]

As I have mentioned before — His name is Monsignor Pope.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

As I have replied before I’m not typing it all out every time.

[amihow]

Why would you say unbiblical when it is word for word a sermon on a Biblical passage?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Why would you say unbiblical when it is word for word a sermon on a Biblical passage?”

Because Arch... Pope made it up. It is not in the passage at all. If ever there was a tour d’force of eisogesis, this is it.

[metmom]

All the focus on the wedding at Cana by the Msgr is on Mary and NOT Jesus, where it belongs.

The prayer of a righteous man is powerful. Mary has no more power in prayer than any of the rest of us as in Christ we are the righteousness of Christ.

[metmom]

If Catholics spent as much time focused on Jesus as they did on Mary, you wouldn’t recognize the Catholic church.

They need to take their Mary time and swap it for their Jesus time. Spend the time they now give to Mary on Jesus, and the time they focus on Jesus and give that amount to Mary.

Then they’d at least be pointed in the right direction.

[Biggirl]

It sure looks very much Bible focus to me.

[Biggirl]

It is on Jesus, why do you over look that?

[Biggirl]

Thank-you and God Bless.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“sure looks very much Bible focus to me.”

He uses the scriptures as a framework to add what isn’t there.

[ealgeone]

Hence this text stands out as unusual and signals that Jesus is speaking at a deeper level. In the Johannine texts Jesus always calls his Mother, "Woman." This is in fulfillment of Genesis 3:15, which says, I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall crush your head, while you strike at his heel. And thus Jesus is saying that Mary is this woman who was prophesied.

Far from being disrespectful to Mary, Jesus is actually exalting her by saying that she is the woman who was prophesied; she is the woman from whose "seed" comes forth the Son destined to destroy the power of Satan.

If catholics want to apply this to Mary then v16 also has to apply.

To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.”

[ealgeone]

II. The prayer that Mary makes - The text says, When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to him, "They have no wine."

This is not a prayer by any stretch.

At least he got the right words describing Mary....the mother of Jesus.

[ealgeone]

Perhaps there was something in the tone of voice that Jesus used, or perhaps there was a look between them that resolved the tension, and evoked Jesus' sympathy for the situation. Whatever the case, Mary stays in the conversation with Jesus and overcomes whatever tension or resistance existed. In this we surely see her tenacity.

In this we see the respect that a Son gives His mom is more the case.

Again with catholics....it's all about Mary telling Christ what to do.

[metmom]

It’s about Jesus?

On what planet?

These are the headings. Where is Jesus mentioned in them?

I. The place that Mary has
II. The prayer that Mary makes
III. The portrait of Mary
IV. The power of Mary’s prayer
V. The product of Mary’s prayer

[ealgeone]

As a mother, Mary has a special role in the beginnings of our faith, in the infancy and childhood of our faith. The text says that many "began to believe." In Greek grammar, this phrase is an example of an inceptive aorist, often used to stress the beginning of an action or the entrance into a state. Thus Mary has a special role in helping to initiate our faith, in helping (by God's grace) to birth Christ in us. As St. Thomas Aquinas say, she is the "go-between," the great matchmaker in the mystical marriage of Christ and the soul. Having done that her final words are, "Do whatever he tells you." And while she may draw back a bit, she continues to pray for us.

Again, the false teaching of catholcism on full display some truth with a little false teaching......Mary is not our "go-between".

She is not needed for salvation.

She plays no role in our salvation.

It would be nice if the msgr had given us the specific verse he was quoting regarding "began to believe."

[metmom]

Perhaps there was something in the tone of voice that Jesus used, or perhaps there was a look between them that resolved the tension, and evoked Jesus' sympathy for the situation. Whatever the case, Mary stays in the conversation with Jesus and overcomes whatever tension or resistance existed. In this we surely see her tenacity.

Conversation? there is no conversation.

She tells Him there's no wine and He asks what He's going to do with her. Then she talks to the servants, simply presuming that He's going to do something.

Conversations go back and forth. It ends with Jesus chastising Mary.

[ealgeone]

It never ceases to amaze me that catholics can “see” something that’s not in the text but when the text is clear they can’t see it.