[RainMan]

I have been part of the Charismatic movement pretty much for the last 40 years. At times I am more devout, others less. I have watched all these preachers at times over the years, and quite frankly, I have never heard them say any of this hooey.

In fact in my life, I have never heard anyone say that Jesus was born again. Every one of them has talked about how Jesus told Nicodemus, but it was never self directed.

Likewise, I have never heard one preacher say that Jesus suffered in Hell. I have heard several speak of Jesus going to hell and breaking the gates and setting the captives free, but never that he suffered one second of torment in hell.

The article, I would note, attacks some good Christian preachers, but never once quotes any of them saying what they are claiming they are saying. This is not an article on theology so much as one to create FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) about some of the best evangelists of the day.

[ShasheMac]

There was no reason for Jesus to be born again. That refers to a new life replacing a sinful one. Jesus never sinned. He did suffer, though. He suffered the full wrath of God for carrying all the sin of the world so you and I don’t have to.

[HangingTuff]

I am not really familiar with any of those listed except for Joyce Meyer. I’ve enjoyed a lot of what’s she’s written and have heard her speak. I always wonder why she is put into the same category.

[Elsie]

...never once quotes any of them saying what they are claiming they are saying.

So; you've noticed it too...

[mdg211]

I have never heard any of these preachers say such a thing and I have listened to many of them for over 40 years. I agree with you RainMan, you said it beautifully.