Posted on 02/05/2016 4:09:36 AM PST by metmom
"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" (2 Corinthians 13:14).
Though there is only one God, He exists in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
God is one, but He exists in three distinct Persons. We call this the Trinity, a contraction of "tri-unity," meaning "three in one." The word Trinity doesn't appear in the Bible, but God's existence as three Persons in one God is clear from Scripture.
Old Testament evidence of God's plurality can be found in the very first verse: "In the beginning God . . ." (Gen. 1:1). The Hebrew word used for God is Elohim, which is a plural noun. Isaiah 42:1 speaks of the Messiah: "Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold; My chosen one in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the nations." The Messiah says in Isaiah 48:16, "The Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit."
The New Testament is more explicit about God's triune nature. After Jesus' baptism, the Spirit of God descended upon Him as a dove, and the Father said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased" (Matt. 3:17). The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are together in the same scene.
Jesus says, "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth" (John 14:16-17). Paul closes 2 Corinthians by saying, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" (13:14). Peter declares that believers are chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 1:2).
So God is one, but God is three. This is a profound mystery that no human illustration can adequately describe and no scientific explanation can prove. The Trinity is something we have to take on faith, because God has taught it in Scripture.
Suggestions for Prayer
Praise God that He is so far above our finite understanding, yet has chosen to reveal Himself to us.
For Further Study
Read John 14-16.
What does Jesus teach about His relationship with the Father and the Spirit? What do you learn here about the different functions or ministries of each member of the Trinity?
Cut to the chase, I actually have a life: So where did the Son come from? If we accept the necessity of a highest power why was/ is there a need for a second equal power and certainly why the need for a third co-equal power? How and why did these second and third powers come to be?
When/if you read the previous posts to you, I addressed that misconception of ‘from’. Have nice day
Quote-All Greg did was to skip ahead twelve DATES to bring the calendar more in line with the seasons.
I agree. But what the Roman Julian and the Pope Gregory does is ignore one of His Appointed Days once a month.
And the answer of why are they ignoring the day is found in its solar based calendar.
They don’t use the moon but the Father does.
He has a day, once a month, called a New Moon Day. And it is not one of His 6 days or His Sabbath, according to Scripture.
In fact, one Scripture verse- Ezekiel 46:1- which hasn’t even happened yet, can really mess up ones view of time.
And the verse can be read over and over and people may not see ? The temple isn’t even there..
But we know He changes not and wouldn’t start changing things..
Ezekiel 46:1
Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the SIX working days; BUT on the sabbath it shall be opened, AND in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
I ask Judaism and Christianity and Muslims alike and anybody else:
What is a New Moon Day if it isn’t one of His 6 Working days or His Sabbath?
The world’s calendar only has 6 working days and 1 sabbath but this verse says there is another day that isn’t either..
And the new moon day or new Moons isn’t just mentioned there. A concordance can find them in a few places.
Always differentiated from the Sabbath and Feasts.
So what the heck is it?
He answered the question I had..
And that’s why 1 New Moon Day +6 Work Days +1 Sabbath is the start of every month in His Calendar.
It is a day that commemorates what was created before He spoke Light and called the Light Day.
It also represents, with study, the day the Word Made flesh was born- a day when the sun clothed the woman and moon was under her feet.
(That day was September 26 2014 and October 14 2015)
Now, that isn’t the ‘day’ but that sign occurs when the first sliver crescent new moon is seen the evening before at the 7th or 8th months right now.
It was day of Trumpets in 2014
It was the first day of His 8th month in 2015
It will be the Day of Trumpets in 2016
2000 years ago, it was the 1st day of His 6th month,a summer month.
Those signs have moved and keep moving in relation to how we see them..
There is one day sun worshippers and sun based calendars miss once a month. And it is the New Moon Day. It is also simply called in Scripture, the 1st day of the month.
And when we follow the template
1+6+1 we get
1- New Moon Day- Birth of the King
6 work
1 Sabbath (8th day)
The 8th day of each of His months is the weekly 7th Day Sabbath.
- He was circumcised on the 8th day of the 6th month- the weekly Sabbath (8th day from His Birth)
Then another 6+1 and we get
6 work(days 9-14)
1 Sabbath(day 15)
He laid His life down for our sins on the 6th work day of the 2nd week, the 14th day. It is finished.
He rested, even in death, on the weekly 7th day and annual Sabbath- 15th day
Then another 6+1 and we get:
1 work day- (day 16)
He rose from the grave on the first day of the week(16th day) as first Fruits
Another
5 work days (days 17-21)
1 Sabbath(22nd Day)
- Israel observed this Sabbath, their first Sabbath, in the wilderness. After they arrived on the 15th and camped (a picture of His Sabbath)
He gave them Bread from heaven starting the next day -16th to the 21st, for 6 days.
- the 22nd day is also listed as the ‘8th’ day of the seven day Feast of Tabernacles which begins on the 15th day (with a Sabbath) and ends with a solemn rest on the 22nd (Sabbath)
Then another 6+1 and we get
6 work days (23rd-28 days)
1 Sabbath (29th)
The moon cycle of 29.5 days is not an accident. In fact, it could be argued at some point, maybe before the flood, the moon cycle was exactly 30 days for a 360 day yearly calendar where anyone could look up at the moon and see what day it was- that can’t happen right now..
But the moon plays a part in how the Creator keeps time. He taught it to Israel. His Son had every major life event set to it and Rome, the 4th Beast/Kingdom in Daniel 7 has changed times and laws to ignore it in timekeeping.
And it isn’t by the tip of the sword. It is subtle. And even people opposed to Rome on principle will not see what they have done to times and laws because its all we ever learned..
And all the religions and the major govts and businesses and schools and the world runs with it.
Romans 12:2
Be not conformed to the world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
One little bible verse!
And one seemingly grade school question and it exposed the world as one big counterfeit for me.
And it allowed Him to show me things that I was blind to by my confirmity.
And it is all for His Glory!
Sharp as a two edged sword is His Word.
BTW, Muslims,Jews,Christians don’t really have an incentive to change. Rome gives them each a Pope approved or Pope appointed Sabbath each week and they go with it.
And if people started counting like He taught Israel,they will see what the 30/60/100 in the Parable of the Sower have to do with the least and the greatest in the Kingdom.
And His Commandments take center stage.
It isn’t a small thing. It helps explain Revelation 13 and 14 today, in our time, and the battle that rages.. And false doctrines and teachings start falling fast..
That is what happens when Babylon falls in one’s life.
And Babylon is bigger than we think.
Yes! Thank you!
See #321 for a correction
See #321 after you read #320 if you wish ..
It’s tough to explain some of it without a chart and pictures...
You didn’t think we were reading it all, didja!
I did not :) It is a lot to process with no pics to help and I should have proofread it- good catch!
I really feel like it is gloss over capability at times because it is really foreign to how we are wired from our first learning as kids.
I just hope people will test everything. They will be surprised how inherited lies really do blind us. And that is how the enemy works. And all people of faith, Jews, Muslims and Christians have the same enemy.
Well let me alter the question, since it appears that you can't won't answer in it's original form.
So where did the Son come from? What is the origin of the "Son"? If we accept the necessity of a highest power why was/ is there a need for a second equal power and certainly why the need for a third co-equal power? How and why did these second and third powers come to be?
Probably not; as I was asking from a worldly point of view.
What kind of MONTH?
With the calendar the world now uses there can be TWO new moons in a month occasionally.
Colossians 2:16
Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.
I'm SURE they are available somewhere!
Can you sharpen a pencil with an atom bomb? Would you try to sharpen a pencil using an atom bomb?
So which is it,You can’t answer the question or you won’t answer it? If you can’t explain this belief in the Trinity, why do you believe it?
Do you believe in only that which you understand? How can a man understand God? We don't even understand each other and we're all human.
Another question.....
Just what is your point in this line of questioning? Are you seriously trying to understand the Trinity and come to a better knowledge of God, or are you just provoking?
Because the tone of your questioning does not lend itself to that of someone who is seriously wanting to know as opposed to someone who is just trying to cause trouble.
When you phrase questions omitting the middle, thus fashioning your questions to have only one of two extremes, I leave such to play argumentum with someone else. You are not serious person seeking to understand, you are a person who wants to frame an exception clause ... which does not exist BTW. In other words, you don’t like the way I’m answering, run along.
I am seeking genuine answers to my questions, so far no one has made even a slight attempt to answer the question, much less a serious attempt. Dancing around with comments about flat land and physics is not an attempt, it is avoidance. Met mom I have not even seen a reply from you and you were the original poster of the article.
You have revealed the purpose of your questioning. And it isn’t what you claim since you just don’t like the way you are being answered and want the answers to follow your closed path to your closed mind. To answer your question, had it bween a genuine query, one must take you to thought patterns you don’t want to follow, thus I used flatland and analogies of dimensional vagaries. You don’t want an answer which will expose your desire to remain closed minded. Thank you for clarifying that before we wasted any more time with you.
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