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To: ealgeone

“The statements are from the book.”

Maybe. Maybe not. Unless I see the book I cannot verify that and when an anti-Catholic posts something that’s necessary.

“Boy, you’ve got a thing with ellipses.”

No, I just have caught Protestant anti-Catholics using them to falsely present things. I have no reason to trust a quote cut and pasted from an anti-Catholic website.

“But the question remains....do you believe the priest is calling Christ down from Heaven and making Him a sacrifice again...and again...and again...and again...and again, etc?”

That isn’t what the quote you posted even claims. You are characterizing it as “making Him a sacrifice again...and again...and again...and again...and again”. That isn’t what the quote says. It says “to be offered up again”. Christ cannot literally be made a sacrifice again - EVER. But His one sacrifice (of Himself) can be sacramentally offered again and again.

Why didn’t you actually characterize what you claim O’Brien said as he ACTUALLY SAID IT???


330 posted on 03/08/2016 8:28:24 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ealgeone
While I had in had the O'Brien book, borrowed from a Catholic, I posted at FR the passages you have cited. I see no inaccuracy in what you posted. Interestingly, when I post the quotes I too was all but called a liar, when the book can be found in probably every Catholic library! If memory serves, the quotes came from pages 289 - 295. But I may have the exact numbers wrong.

I was going to buy a copy but could not get a copy of the edition I had quoted from, only later versions. I quoted from a copy dated to the late or early 1950s. I keep planning to go to the local largest Catholic Church and find their earliest edition of O'Brien's 'Faith of Millions'.

332 posted on 03/08/2016 9:05:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: vladimir998
I have no reason to trust a quote cut and pasted from an anti-Catholic website.

And you ignore most stuff from PRO-Catholic websites...

...if a PROT has the audacity to quote from it!

346 posted on 03/09/2016 3:03:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Christ cannot literally be made a sacrifice again - EVER. But His one sacrifice (of Himself) can be sacramentally offered again and again.

I love things that are actually said (typed)!

347 posted on 03/09/2016 3:04:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
"When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man."

O'Brien doesn't not the "sacremental" aspect you note. He says the priest reaches up, brings Him down and "places Him on the altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man."

This is done at every mass around the world.

If that isn't sacrificing Him over and over and over and over I don't know what is.

No wonder catholics continue to depict Jesus on the Cross.

Catholicism keeps sacrificing Him over and over in spite of the Word saying He was a one time sacrifice for all of our sins.

btw....the quote is not from an anti-catholic site unless you consider O'Brien anti-catholic.

His book is available on amazon or perhaps your local library.

349 posted on 03/09/2016 4:33:00 AM PST by ealgeone
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