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A Look at the Early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-26-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Mrs. Don-o
To have a fruitful discussion, you have to agree on definitions.

I'll be DAMNED if I'm going to use ROME's!!

181 posted on 04/28/2016 12:04:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
What’s wrong is when so-called Christians maliciously attack other Christians because they disagree with their sincere and deeply held beliefs.

Then why do you Catholics persist in it?

182 posted on 04/28/2016 12:04:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
There is no "duleo" in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Koine, IIRC. Those texts are the only verbally inspired infallible ones. Unless you are talking about δοῦλος (doulos), a bondslave, a servant of God, who would do well to προσκυνέω (proskuneo) Him and no one else; and with no image to prompt the worship, either.
183 posted on 04/28/2016 12:07:58 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: rwa265
You saw no quotes around it; did you.

Therefore; I must have researched all of it for myself.

Google© has been VERY nice to me.


http://catholicism.org/mary-co-redemptrix.html
 
http://www.fifthmariandogma.com/articles/are-you-afraid-of-mary-co-redemptrix/
 
http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/coredemedadv.HTM
 
http://www.motherofallpeoples.com/2011/10/mary-co-redemptrix-history-dogma-fruits-and-the-lady-of-all-nations/
 
http://www.catholicplanet.com/CMA/
 
 
 
 
 

185 posted on 04/28/2016 12:13:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

Unless I am mistaken, I do not claim my use of duleo in Greek-ish, or veneration in English, is infallible!

:o)


187 posted on 04/28/2016 12:17:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the Devil.)
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To: rwa265
Most Holy and Adorable Trinity, one God in three Persons, I firmly believe that You are here present; I adore you with the most profound humility; I praise you and give you thanks with all my heart for the favors you have bestowed on me. Your Goodness has brought me safely to the beginning of this day. Behold, O Lord, I offer You my whole being and in particular all my thoughts, words, and actions, together with such crosses and contradictions as I may meet with in the course of this day. Give them, O Lord, Your blessing; may Your divine Love animate them and may they tend to the greater honor and glory of Your Sovereign Majesty. Amen

I like that better than my usual morning offering. Thank you

188 posted on 04/28/2016 12:18:10 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Elsie

Painting with a pretty broad brush there. Some but not all Catholic Christians do. The ones that do cause me to wince. Some but not all from other Christian faiths also do. I don’t mind your humorous jabs, some are quite funny. But some of your cohorts are particularly mean spirited.


189 posted on 04/28/2016 12:20:10 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

What error was the church of Philadelphia teaching?

Let's see...

 

Revelation 3:7-13

“To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

 

FINALLY!

Someone who actually looked up the references!   After HOW many months??


The only thing I find is in this sentence:  Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.

The fact of history shows THIS --->   https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=church+in+philadelphia+ruins&FORM=HDRSC2

 

It appears that their crown has been taken away.

 

 


190 posted on 04/28/2016 12:21:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
The Catholic Church has proved to itself that devotion to Mary is good...

 

 

I know.

191 posted on 04/28/2016 12:22:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Accordingly, the Church does not consider devotion to Mary to be an appearance of evil.

And I can assure you that NOTHING that I do has the appearance of evil either: to me.

192 posted on 04/28/2016 12:24:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
This excellent summary provided by Elsie is why Christians say Catholics worship Mary.

Dang!

That looks like a DUCK!

193 posted on 04/28/2016 12:24:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
Excellent information...

It is available to anyone.

194 posted on 04/28/2016 12:25:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Hmm, something about someone holding keys, and opening and closing...


195 posted on 04/28/2016 12:27:17 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: verga

I like that5 one, also. would that I could live to that level of devotion!


196 posted on 04/28/2016 12:30:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: ealgeone

BTW, I got that teaching from one of the commentaries. I don’t recall which one right now.


197 posted on 04/28/2016 12:37:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But your premise is wrong. You are assuming that anything that is not mentioned in the Bible, is prohibited.

Again the wrong question is being asked.

Are you doing anything that IS prohibited in the Word?

198 posted on 04/28/2016 12:51:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM
 
 

Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Acts 9:13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
Acts 9:32 And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout all quarters, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.
Acts 9:41 |And he gave her his hand, and lifted her up, and when he had called the saints and widows, presented her alive.
Acts 26:10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints : Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Romans 12:13 Distributing to the necessity of saints ; given to hospitality.
Romans 15:25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints .
Romans 15:26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
Romans 15:31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints ;
Romans 16:2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints , and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Romans 16:15 Salute Philologus, and Julia, Nereus, and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints which are with them.
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints , with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints ?
1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1 Corinthians 14:33 |For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints .
1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints , as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
1 Corinthians 16:15 I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints ,)
2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:
2 Corinthians 8:4 |Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints .
2 Corinthians 9:1 For as touching the ministering to the saints , it is superfluous for me to write to you:
2 Corinthians 9:12 |For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints , but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;
2 Corinthians 13:13 |All the saints salute you.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 1:15 |Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints ,
Ephesians 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints ,
Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints , and of the household of God;
Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints , is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
Ephesians 3:18 |May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Ephesians 4:12 |For the perfecting of the saints , for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Ephesians 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints ;
Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints ;
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
Philippians 4:22 All the saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar's household.
Colossians 1:2 |To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:4 |Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints ,
Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Colossians 1:26 |Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints :
1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints .
2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints , and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
1 Timothy 5:10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.
Philemon 1:5 | Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints ;
Philemon 1:7 For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother.
Hebrews 6:10 |For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints , and do minister.
Hebrews 13:24 |Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints . They of Italy salute you.
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints .
Jude 1:14 |And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints ,
Revelation 5:8 |And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Revelation 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
Revelation 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of all saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints , and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints , and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints .
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints : here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints .
Revelation 16:6 |For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints , and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Revelation 18:24 |And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints , and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Revelation 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints .
Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

199 posted on 04/28/2016 12:52:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM

So just how many saints are alive in Heaven right now??


200 posted on 04/28/2016 12:53:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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