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A Look at the Early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-26-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Ransomed; ADSUM; Mrs. Don-o

It’s hilarious when non-Catholic try to tell Catholics what we as Catholics believe.

LOL!


82 posted on 04/27/2016 8:16:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
That illustrates a wider usage than your Greek lexicon suggests.

That's the problem! Catholicism goes beyond the meaning of the texts!

btw...it's not my lexicon. It's how the words are used in the text.

If we don't have an accurate definition of the words used in the text we miss the meaning of the text.

83 posted on 04/27/2016 8:30:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
Laughing at correction, and yes, some non-catholics know quite well the heresies and blasphemies at the heart of your 'other religion' claiming to be true Christianity. We have your religion's catechism and the instructional books by catholic priest, like John O'Brien's 'Faith of Millions' which carries the 'nihil obstet' of your hierarchy.

I cannot know precisely what you as an individual catholic believe, but I can read the material of your religion and compare it to the Truth of The Bible. Catholiciism is a pagan lookalike, not what Jesus The Christ established that continues to add to His Kingdom daily.

84 posted on 04/27/2016 8:32:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN

You are totally wrong.

Pleaase do some mre reading.

You might start with The Four Witnesses by Bennett.


85 posted on 04/27/2016 8:39:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Oh really? On what aspects of your religion am I in error?


86 posted on 04/27/2016 8:43:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN

Your posts prove it.


87 posted on 04/27/2016 8:46:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Now THAT is funny! Have you ever pointed out one specific aspect where I am in error on the religion of catholiciism? Can’t remember a single one. But here’s your chance!


88 posted on 04/27/2016 8:49:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Ransomed

Mormons would also deny their understanding of Christianity is wrong. However, when compared to the Word it is found to be so.


89 posted on 04/27/2016 9:12:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Just say it. Catholics aren’t Christians, right? Don’t hem and haw, lay it out. It’s not that hard.

Freegards


90 posted on 04/27/2016 9:20:01 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Salvation
We must continue to develop, train, and appoint leaders to follow after us.

An unbroken chain from the First Century until this day, one holy catholic and apostolic church.

91 posted on 04/27/2016 9:20:30 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Ransomed

There is a difference. If the catholic, or anyone else for that matter, is relying upon anyone other than Christ and Christ alone for their salvation they are not a Christian.


92 posted on 04/27/2016 9:37:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981
An unbroken chain from the First Century until this day, one holy catholic and apostolic church.

Another myth just like the one the author of this OP tries to pass off by saying we can look at the early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles.

93 posted on 04/27/2016 10:19:16 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: daniel1212
Due to her erroneous understanding of the Lord's Supper (“Eucharist”), Catholicism (by the end of the 2nd century or later) came to consider NT pastors to be a distinctive sacerdotal class of clergy, distinctively called “priests” (which the RC Douay Rheims Bible inconsistently calls them: Acts 20:17; Titus 1:5), and sometimes “episkopos,”), but which the Holy Spirit never does

One must never forget that the non-RCC denominations proceeding out of the Reformation continue to further this "lying sophistry" simply by folding it back on themselves where their "pastors" (elders) or "ministers" (a confusion of elders an deacons properly so-called) are simply re-titled "priests" with sacerdotal function, thus doubly misbranding the term "prebuteros" (simply a comparative of the adjective 'presbutos' meaning 'elderly' or 'old' or 'aged'; figuratively, endowed with experiential wisdom befitting spiritual maturity).

If you really want to know what the administration of the "Eucharist" in the PRESBYTERIAN Church is:

https://www.presbyterianmission.org/ministries/today/communion/

Excerpt:

"For Presbyterians this divinely initiated meal is one of two sacraments of the church, instituted by God and commended by Christ. We are following in the tradition of the early church when we affirm three primal material elements of life--water, bread and wine--as the primary symbols of offering life to God. Being washed with the water of baptism, we receive new life in Christ. In eating the bread and drinking the cup offered by God, our memory of the promises are made present by the Holy Spirit."

The elements are dispensed only under an officiating (ordained, sacerdotal) "pastor" (click here), thus preserving the two-class, Nicolaitan (nikao = overwhelm, laoi = common "lay" people) caste system. It's just a subcutaneous injection of residual faith-destroying catholicism.

And this has not really been eliminated from the typical modern Baptist paradigm either, though they will adamantly and vigorously claim otherwise.

In contrast, one compares the manifestation of the Remembrance as observed by the brethren assemblies typified by the Darbyite "Plymouth"-type local associations whose polity is by a plurality of elders, and the Supper is weekly observed at considerable, thoughtful length, culminated by a distribution of the tokens of the Lord's Passion by any of the brethren who feel moved to do so. The bread and wine are not seen to be sacramental, but rather as literal aids assisting participant to envision the Last Supper venue, and pointing to the manner and meaning of the Cross-death of Jesus of Nazareth. These assemblies have essentially extirpated the "pastor-lay people" paradigm from their vocabulary of community in Christ.

This Scriptural New Testament setting is the one which contradicts the controlling manipulation of the credulity of unwarned "believers." Such local assemblies are non-denominational and exhibit no active reaching out for any kind of ecumenism with Catholics or the episcopacies derived therefrom.

Thank you for apprising me of this discussion.

94 posted on 04/28/2016 12:45:18 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: rwa265
Catholics are in a better position to know what they mean by their actions than those who observe those actions. If you want to know what we mean by our actions, ask us. But don’t tell us we are worshiping Mary when we know in our hearts that we are not worshiping Mary. You cannot possibly know.

I don't think so...Doesn't matter what's in your heart...You have been conditioned to worship Mary while calling it something else...

95 posted on 04/28/2016 3:05:44 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Ransomed; don-o

A fellow FReeper told my husband that she had been received into the Catholic Church last year (Easter 2015) partly under my small influence. I knew nothing about at at the time, but it gave me reason to be rather wonderingly happy heartwise, all the same.


Something similar happened to a friend of mine; I’ll call him John. John was travelling in a car on a business trip with three co-workers when one of them engaged John in a lengthy conversation about religion. They disagreed on many things, and John questioned himself on why he let himself get roped into such a fruitless conversation. Years later, one of the co-workers who was not part of the conversation told John that he went through the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (RCIA) and was received into the Church, and that John’s strong defense of the faith was a contributing factor as to why he became a Catholic.

Peace,
Rich


96 posted on 04/28/2016 3:06:05 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Salvation
A Look at the Early Catholic Church from the Acts of the Apostles

Well; the early church fathers wrote a detailed letter; outling ALL of the things that were VERY important to them;

and to the HOLY GHOST as well:

 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Do ANYONE notice ANY of the Catholic present day REQUIREMENTS in it??

97 posted on 04/28/2016 3:19:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
Monsignor Pope got up to Acts 14.

Perhaps in your next installment he'll address Acts 15!

98 posted on 04/28/2016 3:21:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

Yer not ‘sposed to notice!


99 posted on 04/28/2016 3:22:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
Ah the protestors again! Perhaps they only accept the Bad news!

Ah the Catholics again! Perhaps they only accept the news that Rome says is acceptable.

100 posted on 04/28/2016 3:23:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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