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Christians Have a Mission to Convert all Muslims, Says Vatican Official
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 5/23/16 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 05/23/2016 6:38:24 PM PDT by marshmallow

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I wonder if he ran this by +Francis?
1 posted on 05/23/2016 6:38:24 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I’m glad someone cleared this up.


2 posted on 05/23/2016 6:42:32 PM PDT by Macrinus
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To: marshmallow

Mary chose to appear to 70,000 people at a place named after Mohammed’s daughter. She will convert them.


3 posted on 05/23/2016 6:43:17 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: marshmallow

Don’t recall an exception in the Great Commission for the Jews.....


4 posted on 05/23/2016 6:46:23 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Our job is to preach the gospel and make disciples. It’s the gospel that converts.


5 posted on 05/23/2016 6:49:17 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: CharlesOConnell

I find it telling that Muslims show more reverence for Mary than for Jesus.

Maybe this “Vatican Official” is on to something?


6 posted on 05/23/2016 6:49:38 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: marshmallow
It's incoherent. I'm glad he's talking about converting Muslims, but this idea that we are NOT share the Jewish Messiah with the Jews themselves is weird, and also goes against the latest Vatican document on this topic ("The Gifts and the Calling of God are Irrevocable") published less than 6 months ago!

> The RC Church does NOT say that any person, even a Jew, can be saved without Christ. Here is an exact quote from the document in question:

"The theory that there may be two different paths to salvation, the Jewish path without Christ and the path with the Christ, whom Christians believe is Jesus of Nazareth, would in fact endanger the foundations of Christian faith....

"Confessing the universal and therefore also exclusive mediation of salvation through Jesus Christ belongs to the core of Christian faith. . . . [T]he Church and Judaism cannot be represented as "two parallel ways to salvation."

There's further,detailed discussion of the document in question on another Free Republic thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3373448/posts

Obviously, I don't believe in making myself obnoxious to my Jewish friends by badgering them about converting to Christianity. But if the opportunity presents itself to witness to the saving power of our beloved and holy Jewish Messiah, I will do it.

What, otherwise, would we say? "Jesus wants to save everybody, except Jews?" "Jesus loves everybody, except Jews?"

7 posted on 05/23/2016 6:51:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mater et Magistra.)
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Actually he is wrong. The Jews need conversion. They don’t believe in Jesus Chrst, and He is the reason anyone gets saved.


8 posted on 05/23/2016 6:52:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Belief in Mary saves zero people.


9 posted on 05/23/2016 6:52:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

What anyone feels about Mary saves exactly zero people.


10 posted on 05/23/2016 6:53:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marshmallow

Just backing Francis’ position that conversion is something shared as a goal between Christianity and Islam.

Normalizing everything to then try to argue that the Muslims can proceed as they want but just drop the terrorism thing.

Problem is they’ve got it ass-backwards. Muslims don’t commit terrorism for Islam. Terrorists hide behind Islam to commit terrorism. And Islam makes it easy by openly teaching terrorism.

In fact, the fit is so close, it’s almost like a terrorist invented Islam to justify terrorism...

Nah... Nobody is that crazy... Right?


11 posted on 05/23/2016 6:54:14 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I guess the Roman Catholics dont think the Jews are worth saving.


12 posted on 05/23/2016 6:55:13 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

People who think “apparitions” are of the real Mary will eventually find out they’ve been duped.

Only Christ Saves!
John 6:29
John 14:6
Romans 10:9-10


13 posted on 05/23/2016 6:56:44 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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I fully agree, but converting all the Muslims is not going to be easy .. they like to kill us infidels... and they do it by bullets, bombs, fire burning alive, and crucifixions now too

(Allah/Satan has his early Legions very well armed...)

I do support a mission in a Moslem country that permits it, however the evangelists are not permitted to show visible signs of the Church and they are forbidden from openly preaching. It has to mostly be ‘by example’...


14 posted on 05/23/2016 7:09:59 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Delta 21
I guess the Roman Catholics dont think the Jews are worth saving.

On the contrary, I think that is why Catholics tend to love the Jews; the Second Greatest Commandment.

15 posted on 05/23/2016 7:10:00 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Au contraire:

>>247. We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.<<Evangelii Gaudium


16 posted on 05/23/2016 7:32:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, but if showing reverence for the Mother of God brings one closer to her Son, that’s good.


17 posted on 05/23/2016 7:50:25 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Secret Agent Man

You can’t believe in Mary without believing in her son.


18 posted on 05/23/2016 8:14:49 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: CharlesOConnell
Mary chose to appear to 70,000 people at a place named after Mohammed’s daughter. She will convert them.

Bishop Sheen agreed with you

19 posted on 05/23/2016 8:24:14 PM PDT by SGNA
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