Posted on 06/29/2016 4:03:52 PM PDT by NYer
Chapter 11 of the Acts of the Apostles says that Antioch was the city in which, for the first time, the disciples of Jesus were called “Christians.” Tradition has enthroned Peter as the founder of the Church of Antioch, following the narration of the very same Book of Acts, which tells not only of the arrival of Peter and Barnabas to the Turkish city, but also of their preaching.
Moreover, this very same tradition claims that it was in the Knisset Mar Semaan Kefa (“Grotto of St. Peter” in Aramaic) where Peter would celebrate the Eucharist for this community. That is to say, this little cave could be the first place of worship of the ancient Church of Antioch.
Located in one of the slopes of Mount Starius, the cave has a depth of just thirteen meters and a height of seven, from floor to ceiling. The oldest parts of the building we see today, built around the original, simple cave dug in the mountain, are from the 4th and 5th centuries, and include a series of mosaic floors and a few frescoes which have been preserved on the right side of the altar.
Centuries ago, a series of small aqueducts brought water (considered miraculous) from nearby springs into a small designated area where baptisms were celebrated, but a series of relatively recent earthquakes rendered these channels useless.
When the Crusaders took Antioch during the First Crusade in 1098, a facade was added to the cave, which was rebuilt eight centuries later, in 1863, by Capuchin friars, by order of Pope Pius IX.
Today, the cave is only used as a museum, but, with permission, some religious ceremonies are held, especially on Feb. 21, the day on which Antioch celebrates the feast of their patron, Saint Peter.
Today, the cave is only used as a museum, but, with permission, some religious ceremonies are held, especially on Feb. 21, the day which celebrates the region San Pedro as their patron.
Hogwash!
>>>”Chapter and verse, please.”
Below are a few that are quite plain. You’re going to disagree, but of course you’re welcome to your opinion.
Acts 20:11 “When Paul had gone up and had broken bread and eaten…”
1 Cor 10:16 “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the Blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the Body of Christ?”
1 Cor 11:27 “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the Body and Blood of the Lord.”
1 Cor 11:29 “For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the Body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.”
It just struck me that I must agree with Mom MD that Saint Peter could NOT have held Mass, especially as we know it.
Why? Because the Mass and even Protestant services include reading from the books of the New Testament; these books would not have been written and codified when St Peter was spreading the faith and holding services, therefore he could not have been holding Mass.
The above said in total sarcasm directed to the line of arguments that developed about it.
The Greyhound Bus...I know it well.
Thanks much. Guess that guy misspelled Galatians pretty badly, didn’t he? Looked like Acts to me.
Is your question serious about why Peter feared those from James?
And.. there was no Welch’s Grape Juice.
The Mass, strictly speaking, is only the portion of the church service that involves partaking in the Body and Blood of Christ.
Christ said at the Last Supper, this is my Body, this is my Blood, do this in memory of me. They did as Jesus told them to do from that point forward, and we call that partaking of Bread and Wine as the Mass.
The Apostles were there, they didn’t have to read about it in the New Testament.
We refer to the readings from the Old and New Testaments, and the Psalms as the Liturgy.
Muslims will destroy it overnight.
You're cherry picking verses regarding The Lord's Supper. Chapter and verse where Scripture shows that Peter or Paul celebrated Mass.
You're going to disagree but... NEVER.
Hoss
The Holy Eucharist is Mass.
They give an order of worship that involves gathering on Sunday morning, listening to scriptures being read, singing psalms, having a presbyter preach a sermon. The presbyter would then recite or sing a long prayer over bread and wine, consecrating them as the eucharist, after which the people would receive.
Sounds a lot like the Mass to me.
Of course, the word "Mass" came about later; it comes from a Latin word, not Greek. The Greeks call it "Divine Liturgy".
Hoss
What do you think is the difference?
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No Peter was a devout apostle of Yeshua; he would never have added to Yehova’s commandments.
Actually, yes.
There’s no mass without the Holy Eucharist. It is the central act of divine worship, the
There are prayers, homilies - sometimes - and other liturgies and so on.
But what makes the Mass, the Mass, is the Holy Eucharist.
To say they "celebrated Mass" is to ascribe a false notion of legitimacy to Roman Catholicism which it does not have.
Hoss
Hoss
It is in Turkey.
Just as a clarification to those who may be confused: the Eastern Catholic churches are separate from the Eastern Orthodox churches. The latter is not part of the Catholic Church and is not what is being described in the OP.
Very fascinating!
Spending 3 months in Israel was a revelation.
Shalom
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