Posted on 07/13/2016 3:51:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
Yet...
..it is a WONDERFUL thing to be HELD in the hands of the Living GOD!
John 10:29
And; according to what JOHN wrote:
John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
1 John 3:21-24
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
(If you don't do the first, then the second ain't gonna do you much good.
Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awaken: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
The reliance upon things not specifically mentioned in the Talmud seems to be a crutch that many on FR are counting upon.
It seems that a lot of what you claim is not specifically mentioned in the Talmud.
Quite a house of cards to put your trust in.
Or sinking sand.
It appears that your favorite default to challenges is accuse of neo-Nazi-ism with almost NOTHING positive to back your denial of what you claim is misinformation about your cult.
Noahide is not mentioned in Scripture. The seven laws y'all claim non-Jewish people are under are nowhere given by God for non-Jews to live by.
In fact, the option God continually gave non-Jews was to identify with Judaism and practice it.
Y'all have ZERO Scriptural basis for your belief system.
I never said that.
Specifically, a dot-tot-tit-tittle keraia/chireq. Jesus mentioned it twice, on two recorded occasions, once in Matthew and once in Luke, either of which is in both the Textus Receptus and in the Critical Text (which is supposedly from texts far earlier than the Ben Asher Masorah). And that is exactly what he meant. You do know that the jot-iota-yodh is specifically mentioned in Psalm 119:73, don't you
In the Vulgate, translated by Jerome about 400AD, the keria/chireq is translated "apex" (apices plural), which refers in Latin to a diacritical mark indicating how the a vowel is pronounced, which is exactly what the vowel-pointing does. But I guess this is boring you, eh?
"Accepted"?? This is of the logic "eat garbage, fifty million flies can't be wrong" kind of thinking. I trust the Preserved Scripture rather than the thoughts of fallible men, no matter how many of them.
But thanks for asking.
Great testimony, Bro! I, too, had to break down and get simply convicted, with the Words of salvation through faith alone in Christ alone, and that in the middle of finishing my PhD in spectroscopy. On! Forward!
I don’t think you mean 119:73. The ‘yod’ there is ‘yadecha’ - ‘your hands’.
Probably the vowel points were in use long before Jesus, but weren’t standardized. Somewhat like the teaching that even Israelites in the desert from Egypt made private notes and used shorthand clues as memory aids to Moses’ teachings.
But with the alephs (ah sound with a beginning glottal stop), the hey (eh sound beginning with aspiration), the vavs (the "who" sound with beginning aspiration), and the yodhs ("I" sounds); as well as the punctuations (the colons, hyphens, and superscript dots, as well as commas which represent the tsere yodh).
I would think that those following the Noahide Law scheme but as ger tsaddukim would memorize these and not use the Gentile forms of non-Hebrew markings that tell us how to pronounce their nasty dog languages.
Also, you will note that Hebrew road signs, historical markers, and store fronts in Israel do not use vowel pointing, either.
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From Wiki: "Protestant literalists who believe that the Hebrew text of the Old Testament is the inspired Word of God are divided on the question of whether or not the vowel points should be considered an inspired part of the Old Testament. In 1624, Louis Cappel, a French Huguenot scholar at Saumur, published a work in which he concluded that the vowel points were a later addition to the biblical text and that the vowel points were added not earlier than the fifth century AD. This assertion was hotly contested by Swiss theologian Johannes Buxtorf II in 1648. Brian Walton's 1657 polyglot bible followed Cappel in revising the vowel points. In 1675, the 2nd and 3rd canons of the so-called Helvetic Consensus of the Swiss Reformed Church confirmed Buxtorf's view as orthodox and affirmed that the vowel points were inspired."
I beg to contradict your minimizing of the inspired issue that this yodh is the letter that begins every word of the following seven verses.
The Psalm is given in verse group of eight, each in the group beginning with the same letter, as they do patterning after verses 1 through 8, for which each verse begins with alef. The purpose of the scheme is for the Hebrew student to learn his alpha betas by memorizing the scripture verses in that order. This is pointed out in the English translations in which language the verse does not begin with the inspired letter.
My Greek instructor is memorizing that Psalm, in the Hebrew. This arrangement certainly helps him.
What a wonderful response !
We're not talking about the Talmud or Nazis. We're talking about the Noachidists, who are starting to gain traction to influence our government. And ZC appears to be one of them, if his comments are to be taken seriously.
Here are some extacts from an accounting of Noachidism": (click here)
Death Sentence Endorsed Today
It would be a mistake to believe that contemporary promoters of the Noahide Laws have
abandoned the Talmud doctrine that idolaters (i.e., Christians) be put to death for
practicing their religion. The Noah's Covenant web site calls for the banning of
Christmas and other Christian holidays, and endorses the call for the death sentence for
Christians. Noah's Covenant quotes Rabbi Schneerson from Volume VIII of Likkutei
Sichos, an anthology of the Schneerson's works. (71) Rabbi Schneerson in turn quotes Maimonides (the Rambam).
>>> "according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers."
>>> Maimonides, quoted by Rabbi Schneerson (63) A gentile
>>> is liable for the death penalty … if he has invented a religious holiday for himself …
>>> The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make
>>> 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger
>>> Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or [t]he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah
>>> (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing … and if he does make some
>>> new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the
>>> death penalty for this "
>>> Maimonides (the Rambam) (64)
and:
The translator, Rabbi Dr. H. Freedman, explains in a footnote that the expression "sons of Noah" means non-Israelites:
"The only place where death is explicitly decreed for non-Israelites is in Gen. IX, 6:
>>> Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed. It is a general law,
>>> applicable to all, having been given in the pre-Abrahamic era; his blood shall be shed
>>> must refer to the sword, the only death whereby blood is shed. "
Summing up, a further excerpt says:
>>> Axe or sword, the end result is the same.
"If it seems fantastic that decapitations might be carried out in the US, the reader's attention is called to the July 26, 2003 edition of Defense Watch ("The Voice of the Grunt"). In an article entitled "Anti-Terror Weapon: Off With Their Heads," Robert G. Williscroft argues that the US military decapitate 'terrorists.' " >>> We should have beheaded Saddam's monster sons, and placed their pigskin-draped
>>> heads atop long poles in the center of Baghdad. Then, one by one, as we capture other
>>> high-ranking members of the old regime, their pigskin-draped heads should join the
>>> rotting heads of the Hussein brothers.
>>> Robert G. Williscroft (73)
"Of course, all of the "terrorists" so far are Gentiles. And once decaptition is used by American officials on Iraqi Gentiles, the precedent is established. Decaptition becomes an American practice, and may be used other Gentiles as well."
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So there we have it, this is what promulgating "Noachidism" amounts to.
Which actually fits in very well with end times prophecy about taking the mark of the beast.
Or rather refusing to.
She visited Germany in 1931, and returned in 1938, noting a "great improvement of conditions".[14] She attended Nazi Party meetings, and the German government paid her expenses.[14] She wrote that "The German people under Hitler are contented and happy. ... don't believe the stories you hear that this man has not done a great good for this country."[14][ii] In 1938, she toured Palestine, where she filmed what she described as Jewish immigrants ruining the country, and Spain — then embroiled in the Spanish Civil War — where she filmed "Red torture chambers" and burnt-out churches, "ruined by the Reds with the same satanic Jewish glee shown in Russia".[18] She visited Japan, which she viewed as the only Christian nation in Asia, and in 1939, she returned to visit Spain, for a second time.[19][20]
I have no idea what your original point was, but thanks anyway. Shabbat Shalom.
I know...
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