Posted on 09/11/2016 4:24:38 PM PDT by marshmallow
"Believers and non-believers agree that the Earth is our common heritag, the fruits of which should benefit everyone. However, what is happening in the world we live in?
Pope Francis has been a strong advocate for environmental protection since the start of his pontificate. In 2015, with the publication of the encyclical Laudato si', it became clear that the care of what he calls "the Common Home is one of his top priorities.
POPE FRANCIS
June 17, 2015
"I ask you to be responsible with the mission God entrusted to mankind with Creation. To cultivate it and care for the garden in which He has placed us.
That is why he established September 1 as the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation, joining in this way the Orthodox Church, who did exactly the same in 1989.
To help Pope Francis in his efforts, the World Council of Churches has launched an ecumenical campaign: "Season of Creation, that will run until October 4, the feast of Saint Francis, patron saint of Ecology.
(Excerpt) Read more at romereports.com ...
Absolutely NOT!!!!!
No man nor any organization has any authority over Scripture.
That is so backwards that it would be funny if it weren't so diabolical and disastrous in the consequences for believing that way.
Read Acts 15. Read what happened when Paul and Barnabas ran into conflicts in Antioch. There was no New Testament. They couldn't say...."let's see what Scripture says about this". Rather, we're told that they returned to Jerusalem to consult with the "apostles and ancients". No books, no Bible.....just human authority. The Church functioned just fine and this model has come down to us today.
I have read Acts 15. Many times. And it's clear that you need to as you display an abysmal ignorance of what happened there.
It was NOT *just human authority*. Not anywhere near that.
And no church would function *just fine* on human authority alone.
Acts 15:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements:
It wasn't *just human authority*. It was the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Something that is sorely lacking in the Catholic church today by everything shown by posts made by Catholics on this forum.
marshmallow: Is he? That is very much the question. We're sailing in uncharted waters right now. There's no playbook for what's currently happening.
What about the claimed promises protection for the Catholic church by God?
Was the magisterium following the leading of the Holy Spirit in selecting the pope or not?
If they were, how the heck could the Holy spirit put into position men such as Francis and some of the grossly immoral men who have been popes in the past, to be the representative of Jesus on this earth? The Holy spirit would make a mockery of Jesus and His church and the claimed promises of God by having them appoint such men?
And it the magisterium wasn't being led by the Holy Spirit to select the pope, then how can there ever be any claim that ANY pope was Christ's representative here on earth?
And if leadership of the Catholic church has made such huge mistakes selecting popes, why do they believe they havent made the same huge mistakes with doctrine?
How can you trust them?
Now there's an assumption made of desperation.
OK, so if the unstated premise is there.
PROVE IT.
You will find it in every single Catholic catechism that has ever existed, and in every textbook of moral theology ever published, and it will be explained to you by every Catholic priest on the face of the earth, if you ask.
Being an *unstated premise* means that it's merely an ASSUMPTION that that is what was meant by someone wishing to weasel out of what is clearly stated so the Catholic church doesn't look so bad.
And you would know this unstated premise just how? Can you read minds?
Cause if it's unstated, it isn't documented anywhere. Therefore it must have been a made up premise, presumed by those who wish that it were the case and that those men didn't say what they really meant.
So a statement by a pope you consider Feeneyite, but you are also willing to give it exception. On the other hand, I write similar posts and I get called a Feeneyite with no exceptions made despite the fact that I have made it clear that I agree with Church teaching on invincible ignorance, Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood (which Feeneyites don’t).
So when are you going to retract those accusations and stop accusing me of being a Feeneyite?
Too bad Vatican II doesn’t agree with you. It specifically states that these separated churches are used as means of salvation. This is not the same thing as saying those in these churches/religions can validly baptize. And as a side note, it is not a given that they always validly baptize. That depends on whether they use the correct Catholic form, matter and intention.
Nowhere will you find a statement that non-Catholic churches/religions are means of salvation before Vatican II.
The issue is that post Vatican II, vincible/culpable ignorance has pretty much become invincible ignorance for just about everyone who is not Catholic.
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/77982a376d9f1b199810842b1f158b8e-203.html
You really didn’t ask a question metmom, you found a anti-Catholic source to inundate me with distorted views, really no information in your long list, I gave you an answer to one Pope, just randomly picked him out so you could see how ignorant and biased your source was.
Would I say all Popes did good things always? No, but you must understand that our Popes (yes, they are yours as well) are men, exactly like the Apostles who also were not perfect.
This Pope is all about Jesus’ love and mercy. I do not agree with his personal opinions on some matters, global warming, socialism, etc. But, one must also understand his message and speeches are constantly being distorted. And, unfortunately I think a lot of people fall for that.
Does the Catholic religion claim their Pope is an Apostolic successor to Peter? Who was the last Pope to see the Lord Jesus, since that was a requirement the Apostles named in their list?
Of course it dropped out of the sky...God did not inspire the writers to 'go write something'...He inspired them on what to write...And then God preserved it, in spite of your religion...
He gave us His Word and the means to authentically interpret it.
Where did you get that nonsense from???
Eph 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
When we read the book, the writings, the letters, all of which are scripture and inspired by God, we can understand what we are reading, right off the pages of scripture...There's no need for interpretation...
People and religions 'interpret' scripture when they don't understand what it says...And why don't they/you understand the clear, plain scripture???
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
This is why your religion puts its own spin (interpretation) on the clear, plain scriptures...
Now there's an assumption made of desperation-metmom
Exactly.
How can one know something that is not true? No one can "know" (with knowledge and wisdom from God) That the "Catholic Church is the true Church" because it isn't.
Believing that the Catholic Church is the One Holy and True Apostolic Church which contains all those in the body of Christ is a deception. The Bible does not substantiate any truth associated with that phrase.
It's pretty much a trick, get people to believe the lie then cower them into following it so that they think they will sin if they break free and become a born again saved Christian with Jesus living in them and them living in Jesus and now being members of the body of Christ and living in the Kingdom of God even while residing here on this earth.
John 15:19 - If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Interpretation is only needed when someone doesn’t like what is being said and is looking for another meaning to it.
Exactly...
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