Posted on 10/13/2016 3:20:45 PM PDT by ebb tide
As also JP II is no longer among the living, but guess who elevated your "apostate", Bergolio, to the College of Cardinals?
Bingo! JP II.
And guess who elevated Cupich to the College of Cardinals?
Bingo! Your apostate, "Frankie".
And guess who "canonized" JPII?
Bingo! Your apostate, "Frankie".
I retract my comments that I think you may be a cafeteria catholic.
I think you are a cafeteria sedevacantist.
No. You yourself have said it. You said Bergoglio is an apostate. And apostates cannot be licit popes.
Your even said we are currently in an interregum.
By definition, you currently a sede (and a cafeteria one at that).
So you think a miserable pope can convene a miserable council and his miserable successor conclude it; and change Catholic dogma?
Do you worship the same "god" that Osama bin Laden worshipped? If not, you reject the Second Vatican Council.
Otherwise, you appear to be a universalist, like Bergoglio.
Pope John XXIII is commemorated on the date of his death, 3 June, by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and on the following day, 4 June, by the Anglican Church of Canada and the Episcopal Church (United States).
Your “apostate”, Papa Tango, elevated John XXIII to the altars on April 27, 2014.
Don't like Pope Saint John Paul II? Enjoy Frankie the schism coddler which makes him closer to your kinda guy. Pope Saint John Paul II excommunicated their sorry patoots and declared them in schism. Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications of those still living but NOT the declaration of schism. Frankie jumped right on it and approved the schismatics to hear confessions without so much as a by-your-leave to diocesan ordinaries.
Question #2: No, especially when the V-II Council did not even CLAIM to be dogmatic.
Question #3: Osama bin Laden worshiped a fiction. I worship the one true God. Again, as to your little editorial, the V-II Council did not CLAIM to be dogmatic.
I am a Roman Catholic in communion with the Holy See, if not its current occupier, and with my diocesan bishop and always have been. I also refuse to give aid and comfort to schizzies and I always will. Frankie may be anything from some kind of Catholic to a Universalist or worse. To the best of my knowledge, amazingly, he has yet to address such alternatives in off-the-cuff imbecilities or otherwise but..... stay tuned.
Given some of his spontaneous foolishness, I am given to wonder whether he is a clandestine drinker who knows how to avoid the image.
Your "apostate" schism coddler supposedly canonized your hero, who invoked St John the Baptist to protect Islam.
I think that you are the east high end of a westbound horse.
While we are at it, WHO is your pope still alive in this world? Or did Jesus Christ make false promises, according to you and the schizzies?
Capitalizing the word SAINT in reference to JP II makes sense. I will take you up on that: Pope SAINT John Paul II. I like that. It has a certain CATHOLIC ring to it. Yeah!
And I think you have your nose up the Heaven end of a hell bound Cupich.
Happy trails!
John XXIII elevated Paul VI to the college of cardinals.
Paul VI elevated JP II to the college of cardinals.
JP II elevated Bergoglio to the college of cardinals.
And Bergoglio is about to elevate Cupich to the college of cardinals. Do you not understand your hypocrisy by being a cafeteria sede?
Who is your pope, Black Elk?
You have already declared Bergoglio to be an apostate and that we are now in period of interregnum.
Who you waiting for to be your pope? Cupich? Dolan? Daneels?
I'm glad that you have finally admitted that. But it doesn't explain your vitriol for traditional Catholics who claim the same.
Hypocrite.
Impossible. Sedevanctists, by definition, are not in communion with the Holy See.
Yet you later stated, "...the V-II Council did not even CLAIM to be dogmatic."
Please make up your mind in that cafeteria in your head.
No real comeback so you resort to ad hominems.
You have shown yourself to be a sedevacantist by admitting that you believe we live in an interregnum, but you can not accept that because that would mean you would have to condemn yourself as a schismatic along with the others you call schismatic.
I actually agree that the belief that we live in an interregnum is not non-Catholic. But then again, there is no Catholic teaching that states how long an interregnum can be, so it is not for you to tell other sedevacantists that they are schismatic because they believe that we live in a longer period of interregnum than you do. In fact, it is hypocritical.
You have judged Francis an apostate (and I agree). If you can judge that, then it isn't a stretch for others to judge that we have had a string of apostates given they have said and done things very similar to "Frankie" (although I agree he is far worse in some regards). It all stems from Vatican II. Frankie is just the latest "fruit" of Vatican II. Through Frankie, the Modernists are moving further ahead with the revolution. We should be uniting against the Modernist revolution of Vatican II not fighting with one another. The problem is despite the fact that keep saying Vatican II wasn't dogmatic, etc, you seem to believe the teachings of Vatican II. Maybe you just don't see that. Do you agree with ecumenism (for example)?
We just determined that we live in an interregnum. Since when does an interregnum mean that Christ made false promises? Where is the Catholic teaching that states that? Where is the Catholic teaching that there must always be an occupant in the Chair of Peter? Where is the teaching that states that every successive occupant will be legitimate? By the way, there isn't one so I am not expecting you to answer those questions.
And you yourself have determined that the last occupant is not legitimate. There are consequences for that belief. One of which is that his infallible canonizations (John XXIII and JPII and soon to be Paul VI) are not infallible.
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