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Pope jokes in ecumenical meeting: Who is better - Catholics or Lutherans?
Rome Reports ^ | 10-13-16

Posted on 10/13/2016 3:20:45 PM PDT by ebb tide

POPE FRANCIS "I also want to ask you a question." "Who is better: Lutherans or Catholics?" "It is better when they are together.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch
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To: DBeers

Hear! Hear!


101 posted on 10/15/2016 10:04:38 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

Summer of Love was 1967

Death of the hippie funeral procession was that fall October 6 in the Haight

The real funeral death of the hippie though was actually though postponed for two years and took place at Roman Polanskis home at 10050 Cielo drive in Benedict canyon Los Angelses on 8-9-1969

Any notions of hippie bliss was buried that sad night forever


102 posted on 10/15/2016 10:24:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (the traitorous GOPe deserves Third of May 1808 if ever a party did....)
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To: ebb tide
When Marcel went to his eternal "reward," he was beyond any earthly authority to lift his quite justified excommunication and Benedict XVI (who signed off on the original SSPX excommunications as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith as did Bernardin Cardinal Gantin of the Congregation for Bishops) did not purport to lift Marcel's excommunication since he could not. Were Pope Saint John Paul II and Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger right or was Benedict XVI right or was there some intervening reconciliation of the living SSPX schismatics with the Church and papal authority? Not according to SSPX publications which continue to posture as though Fellay and his co-conspirators have the standing to "demand" that Pope Saint John Paul II, Benedict XVI and this new and hopefully temporary guy and presumably any future popes that they adhere to the fantasies of the schizzies as a "condition" of the schizzies RETURN to the RCC.

Got along without them before we met them. Gonna get along without them now so long as Frankie does not further confuse the reality with another "Who am I to judge?"

That question never occurred to Pope Saint John Paul II because he knew exactly who he was to judge and he did as holder of the keys of Peter.

Benedict XVI who had, in his days at the Holy Office acquired the nickname "The Rottweiler," by the time he became pope had become a nice old man "a puppy dog" with intellectual credentials who just wanted everyone to get along. He lifted the excommunications as an act of mercy and the schizzies proceeded to piss all over him and his generous efforts to reconcile them because he would not submit on bended knee to their non-existent "authority."

103 posted on 10/15/2016 10:38:14 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

All this coming from a self-described sedevacantist.

Rant on!


104 posted on 10/15/2016 10:46:38 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: BlackElk

If you believe that you are living in an interregnum because you have proclaimed Francis an apostate, then you are a sedevacantist. Deal with it.


105 posted on 10/15/2016 10:52:54 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide
1. It is above my pay grade to argue with St. Thomas Aquinas.

2. Fortunately, I don't have to argue with him since what you have posted from Summa Theologica seems much more relevant to the ongoing medieval controversies within Christendom over the misbehavior of monarchs (i.e., lay investiture of bishops) than it does with raging rebellious BISHOPS who take it upon themselves to exercise the power to appoint bishops which is reserved to the Holy See. God help us! In the time of Aquinas, diocese were probably still choosing their own bishops by popular acclamation. Archbishop Cordileone would not likely be elected Archbishop of San Fransicko where he is the last link with civilization.

Nice try.

Any similar attempts will bring the reminder that Aquinas also believed that the unborn infant did not become a human being until "quickening." I have little doubt that Aquinas, if he were among us today, and shown Pope Saint John Paul II's encyclical The Gospel of Life, would say "How about that I must have been wrong! I submit to his authority." I also suspect Aquinas, if appointed an Inquisitor to sit in judgment on Marcel the Defiant, would have had no problem turning him over to be burned at the stake if he refused to repent. Those were the good old days!

106 posted on 10/15/2016 11:01:07 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: ebb tide
1. It is above my pay grade to argue with St. Thomas Aquinas.

2. Fortunately, I don't have to argue with him since what you have posted from Summa Theologica seems much more relevant to the ongoing medieval controversies within Christendom over the misbehavior of monarchs (i.e., lay investiture of bishops) than it does with raging rebellious BISHOPS who take it upon themselves to exercise the power to appoint bishops which is reserved to the Holy See. God help us! In the time of Aquinas, diocese were probably still choosing their own bishops by popular acclamation. Archbishop Cordileone would not likely be elected Archbishop of San Fransicko where he is the last link with civilization.

Nice try.

Any similar attempts will bring the reminder that Aquinas also believed that the unborn infant did not become a human being until "quickening." I have little doubt that Aquinas, if he were among us today, and shown Pope Saint John Paul II's encyclical The Gospel of Life, would say "How about that I must have been wrong! I submit to his authority." I also suspect Aquinas, if appointed an Inquisitor to sit in judgment on Marcel the Defiant, would have had no problem turning him over to be burned at the stake if he refused to repent. Those were the good old days!

107 posted on 10/15/2016 11:01:07 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

At first I thought you were a cafeteria catholic, by choosing which popes were right and which popes were wrong.

But I’ve now seen that you have admitted you are a sedevacancist.

Your denial of the dogma of EENS also makes one a material heretic.


108 posted on 10/15/2016 11:07:45 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: BlackElk; ebb tide
May I also conclude that you admire Frankie more than you admire Pope SAINT John Paul II?

You do realize Francis canonized your SAINT John Paul II, don't you? If Francis is an apostate and we are living in an interregnum as you believe, his canonizations are null and void and JPII is no saint.

109 posted on 10/15/2016 11:17:53 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: BlackElk; ebb tide

“Remember how worked up y’all got over a photo purporting to be JP II “kissing” the Koran?”

Not sure why that would be “purporting” given JPII prayed that St John the Baptist would protect Islam:

https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/travels/2000/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20000321_wadi-al-kharrar.html


110 posted on 10/15/2016 11:33:36 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv
What is that brown stuff running out of your ears, "pre-Vatican II Catholic?" There were numerous occasions in the medieval Church in which as many as three rivals claimed to be the REAL pope simultaneously,sometimes elected by separate "conclaves" and all were subsequently declared antipopes and a legitimate pope chosen by an actual conclave and life went on.

When there is no legitimate pope, there is an interregnum.

You STILL answer no questions. There just MUST be a reason why you are too embarrassed to defend your remarkable fantasies.

Also, when Pius XII had died and before Roncalli was elected, when Roncalli had died and Montini had not been elected, when Montini died and Pope John Paul I had not been elected, and all similar circumstances in history, there were interregnums. In the modern context, sedevacantism seems attached to the claims that the late and usually admirable Giussepe Cardinal Siri was once or twice (1958 and/or 1963) elected as Gregory XVII but somehow "prevented" from serving. Nonetheless, he participated as a cardinal at the conclaves of 1978 that elected Pope John Paul I and Pope Saint John Paul II suggesting that Siri did not agree with the "Siri thesis."

That sort of sedevacantism leads to the idjit notion that we can never again elect a pope since all cardinals appointed by Pius XII and his predecessors are now either dead or so old that they don't know they are alive. That cannot the meaning of Jesus Christ's promise to be with His Church to the end of the world. Nor does it mean that the archschismatic Fellay is the REAL pope or Clarence Kelly or Joseph Santay or one of the Thuc line of illicit bishops whoever leads whatever cult you belong to (assuming that you are using Pius V because of Quo Primum or because of the Society of St. Pius V or some similar group of renegades).

111 posted on 10/15/2016 11:40:29 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: piusv
King Abdullah II of Jordan to whom that remark was addressed proves that there Islam and then there is Islam and, while none are Catholic, Abdullah II and Jordan at least side with Western Civilization, not only in waging war upon the Islamofascisti but also inviting Pope Saint John Paul II to make a good will tour of Jordan.

You need some real hobbies. Hurling anathemas and consigning others to hell for offending your tastes is not improving your credibility. Macrame, knitting, stamp collecting, cross-country skiing, whatever.

112 posted on 10/15/2016 11:53:14 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: ebb tide
You smooch Frankie to your heart's content. He will be gone, hopefully soon enough. Catholicism will return to the Vatican whether you think so or not.

Will you be helping Frankie's Islamopals and child crucifiers to sail to Europe for the next step in smothering Western Civilization?

If Frankie is said to be pope and, asked if unrepentant practicing sexual perverts should be allowed to receive the Holy Eucharist, he responds with the notorious "Who am I to judge?," what are we to conclude? Recognition of reality is a far cry from grumbling in the darkness that "Gregory XVII" wuz robbed and that we can no longer elect popes. I would say that even you can see the difference but it is not a sure thing.

113 posted on 10/15/2016 12:01:41 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: ebb tide
Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus. Vatican II apparently saw Ecclesia BEYOND the boundaries of the Roman Catholic Church (and presumably the Eastern Orthodox Church).

I have admitted no such thing.

So, I gather you regard John XXIII and Paul VI as right in whatever they did, including instigating Vatican II and approving its decrees. That must end the controversies. When will you parish institute its Novus Ordo Mass schedule? After all, you don't want to be choosing the right and wrong among popes.

114 posted on 10/15/2016 12:07:23 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: ebb tide

It is a good thing that John Wayne Gacy is no longer among the living or Frankie would probably appoint him to the College of Cardinals. After all Gacy was a Chicagoan and every bit as worth appointing as Cupich.


115 posted on 10/15/2016 12:11:39 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
So, I gather you regard John XXIII and Paul VI as right in whatever they did, including instigating Vatican II and approving its decrees.

Once again, you think wrongly. I don't, and have never agreed, that those two popes as having been "right" in the above actions.

You keep referring to a "saint" that, has been canonized by, as you yourself has stated, is an apostate.

Cafeteria catholic and a sedevacantist at that.

116 posted on 10/15/2016 12:17:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: BlackElk

You are a sede. Deal with it.


117 posted on 10/15/2016 12:18:12 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: BlackElk
proves that there Islam and then there is Islam

There is only one Islam. It is a false, diabolical religion. The same one your precious JPII prayed that a true Catholic Saint would protect.

Deal with it.

118 posted on 10/15/2016 12:21:34 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: BlackElk
When there is no legitimate pope, there is an interregnum.

I agree. That means that there is no legitimate canonizations. Hence, your precious JPII is no Catholic Saint.

Deal with it.

119 posted on 10/15/2016 12:23:51 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide

Sez you!


120 posted on 10/15/2016 12:27:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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