Posted on 11/03/2016 9:39:17 AM PDT by ebb tide
You didn't directly address the above statement. Do you worship the same "god" that Osama bin Laden worshipped?
Only in your warped view
You just exemplified my point in one post
Tks
“Only to those who don’t read the Bible.”
No. He clearly is just another huckster spouting his opinions. He uses a classic technique: He gets the congregation/audience heading in his direction with generally sound reasoning from scripture and then throws in his own opinions as if they are logical extrapolations from the sound reasoning.
By the way, is it true that he divorced his first and second wives, and now his kids’ nanny is his third wife?
I don’t need some false prophet to lecture me....my salvation is assured by the grave of a loving God
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Prophetic words from auto-correct? ;-) This is not a salvation issue. It is a rewards issue. It is a do you go through the Great Tribulation and get you head cut off issue. If you believe in your heart that Jesus was raised from the dead and confess with your mouth that Jesus is LORD, you will be saved.
Watch whom you call a false prophet. The Jews called Jeremiah a false prophet, and look what that got them.
Your view point on eschatology is not mine....
Don’t bother to respond
Let me know when he catches up with King David. ;-) Has he had anyone killed to get their wife?
Roger that.
The internet, however, disproves the underlying premise that the Church's teaching is invariant.
On the big stuff, sure. On the technicalities? Absolutely not.
“I own the Catechism of Trent”
So do I.
” and all of the Baltimore Catechisms.”
I own several. I also own The Catechism of the Summa Theologica. I also own the Catechism of St. Robert Bellarmine. I also own The Catechism Explained (which is a great classic). I also own Leo Trese’ catechism. I also own the Exposition of Catholic Doctrine series of catechisms. I also own The Teaching of Christ catechism. I also own both volumes of A Parochial Course in Doctrinal Instruction. I also own Canon Ripley’s This is The Faith. And?
“They are contradictory to JP II’s catechism. Check it out.”
You are contradictory to the Catholic faith. Check it out.
“Let me know when he catches up with King David.”
David repented. Has this guy?
” ;-) Has he had anyone killed to get their wife?”
I bet several souls have suffered even onto spiritual death because of his actions.
Kitchen sink. Another sign of your apparent desperation. Keep posting like that. You’re just proving I’m right.
He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the Contrary, Mohammed said that he was sent in the power of his arms - which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning (1). Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed forced others to become his follower's by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimony of the Old and the New Testaments by making them into a fabrication of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place faith in his words believe foolishly." - Summa Contra Gentiles, Book 1, Chapter 16, Art. 4. Footnote: 1. Sura 21:5, Sura 44:14; Sura 16:103, Sura 37:36 Saint Thomas Aquinas
"Those who die as infidels are damned." -Pope St. Pius X
I am a former Catholic turned evangelical. According to them, I cannot be saved. Very offensive and unbiblical teaching.
Forgive be but I don't believe you for one second. If you owned those catechisms, and studied them, you would have tossed JP II' catechism.
Fight the secularists and the Muslims not other Christians.
Sure you can be saved. Just come on home.
“Forgive be but I don’t believe you for one second.”
Well, once again, you’re wrong. I own everything I listed and many more books. And, unlike you apparently, I actually read them.
“If you owned those catechisms, and studied them, you would have tossed JP II’ catechism.”
Nope. And if you could think, you would realize that the theologians who put together the Catechism of the Catholic Church DID READ many of those books. Ever notice how often the Roman Catechism is cited in the CCC? No, apparently you didn’t.
The last catechisms I bought I got in the mail a few weeks ago at about the same time. The one from Bellarmine: This is the edition I purchased: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0692758909/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 And I finally got a copy of the newly translated catechism of the Ukrainian Catholic Church which I’ve been waiting for in English for several years. http://www.skeparchy.org/assets/files/Other/2015/CATECHISM%20OF%20THE%20UKRAINIAN%20CATHOLIC%20CHURCH.pdf The Ukrainian catechism is well worth the money and trouble of getting it. It not only is well written, but has some truly beautiful icons that are excellent for studying the faith.
In other words, you can scoff all you like, but I know what catechisms I own. I paid for them. I searched bookstores online and in person to find them. I waited for the last one to be translated and published in English. And, as always, you only have the Kitchen Sink to divert attention away from another of your failures.
I still don’t believe you.
“Watch whom you call a false prophet. The Jews called Jeremiah a false prophet, and look what that got them.”
Conversely, watch who you CALL a prophet. They cannot be wrong. Not once.
“Forgive be but I don’t believe you for one second. If you owned those catechisms, and studied them, you would have tossed JP II’ catechism.”
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That’s right. 413 Catholic books or books with “catholic” in the title. And that’s only what I’ve bought from Amazon. That doesn’t include years and years of voracious buying of books and reading them way before the time Amazon came into existence nor does it include second hand bookshops, garage sales, gifts from friends, etc.
There is ZERO CHANCE you will ever read as many books on the Catholic faith as I have. ZERO. I don’t say that in some sort of chest beating way. I just say it to point out that, as usual, you have no idea of what you’re talking about and you’re never going to catch up.
By the way, the “bible”?
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I acquire and read more books in a year than most people read in a decade or two - and that is NOT an exaggeration. When I visit the local used bookstore and someone is looking for a Christian title the people who work there turn to me for help in finding it. The time you waste online posting useless threads about things you don’t understand I spend reading and actually learning.
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