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The animosity toward the four Cardinals coming from the Pope and his closest collaborators [new franciscardinals] was expected. That is why the letter to the Pope containing the "dubia" was signed by three retired Cardinals and Cardinal Raymond Burke, who has already been removed from his Vatican post. “For good reason,” Vatican sources told LifeSiteNews, others who supported the letter could not sign on for fear of losing their positions.
1 posted on 11/21/2016 9:54:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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The beginning of their question was unnecessarily obsequious to a nauseating degree.


2 posted on 11/21/2016 10:01:29 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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So, now we’ve gone from Francis being ambiguous to Tobin and Cupich lying through their teeth.


3 posted on 11/21/2016 10:37:53 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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Nonetheless, Cardinal Cupich claimed that the four Cardinals needed conversion. “The Holy Father doesn't have to defend a teaching document of the Church,” he said. “It's up to those who have doubts or questions to have conversion in their lives.”

What a condescending s.o.b.
4 posted on 11/21/2016 10:50:11 PM PST by irishjuggler
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I struggle to find words to accurately express my disappointment in the Catholic leadership. I know historically my churches leadership has been a mess frequently, but I always hope that they will come to their senses and act less like preening powdered princes, and more like Christ.


5 posted on 11/21/2016 11:04:38 PM PST by catbertz
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Matthew 23:9 “And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.”


8 posted on 11/21/2016 11:40:07 PM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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One could read this article and see history happening all over again. It’s as if I am reading about Vatican II and those prelates who criticized it and Rome’s reaction to them.

Except those who are criticizing Rome today actually believe Vatican II was Catholic and are therefore Modernists themselves. Those they criticize are just further down the rabbit hole.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 4:46:20 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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Cupich added, “I think that if you begin to question the legitimacy or what is being said in such a document, do you throw into question then all the other documents that have been issued before by the other popes. So I think it’s not for the pope to respond to that, it’s a moment for anyone who has doubts to examine how they got to that position because it is a magisterial document of the Catholic Church.”

Which is why there is Protestantism....(protesters). There is a point when following a man you can not question is too much for people who love God.

10 posted on 11/22/2016 5:29:48 AM PST by Lady Heron
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