Posted on 12/05/2016 3:10:37 PM PST by Jonty30
What is the meaning of the Pope praying in a mosque?
He’s been submitting to everything but the Bible.
Isn’t everyone?
I guess Jesus didn't mean it when He said, "I AM the way, the truth and the life. NO MAN comes to the Father but through Me."
Catholicism doesn’t teach that. Linguistics teaches that.
Arabic-speaking Christians have been calling God by his Arabic-language name since the Day of Pentecost. Ref. Acts 1.
“Arabic-speaking Christians have been calling God by his Arabic-language name since the Day of Pentecost. Ref. Acts 1.”
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If that’s so, then they’ve been calling on the wrong god for several millennia.
Uh....Benedict did it too.
Who cares? It’s just Frankie the idiot pope.
Agreed. When the head of a religion has abandoned it, he is no longer fit for office.
That’s silly. Christian Arabs were using their own word for God for 5 1/2 - 6 centuries before Muhammad stole the word and perverted the message.
There’s nothing wrong with addressing the One True God in one’s own language. Theos - Deus - Gott -God - YHWH - Adonai - Allah.
What’s wrong, is that Muhammad said a whole lot of things about Him that were not true.
The Arabic translations of the Old and New Testaments use the name Allah for the One True God, which is just as legitimate as the French using the French word “Dieu”.
The error comes in the fact that the Koran and the Hadith and Sunna tell falsehoods about Him.
It’s exactly what it says but I should expect all manner of snarky, deceitful anti catholic remarks on free republic. I should also expect a question such a as posed in #6 to be rhetorical nastiness and not a real question
Pearls before swine comes to mind.
Technically not so much calling on the wrong god, but calling on the true God in an erroneous fashion. 'Allah' is just the generic Arabic word for 'God' just as 'Elohim' is in Hebrew (and it isn't much of a stretch to see the similarity in the two Semitic words).
The problem is that Mohammed co-opted the identity of the God of Abraham as the god to be worshipped in the religious system that he received from a fallen angel (or just made up himself out of whole cloth). If the Allah that the Mohammedans actually worship is in fact the same god as the God of Abraham (a point worthy of debate), then they are doing in completely wrong.
God has shown us how He desires to be worshipped, and the Mohammedans' way isn't it.
“Technically not so much calling on the wrong god, but calling on the true God in an erroneous fashion.”
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At best, it could be likened to calling a business to speak with the CEO and telling the switchboad op you wanted to talk to “a man”.
However, anyone who does practice this must be ignorant of the Old Testament, wherein in the name of God is stated (by God) as either “Yahweh” or “Jehovah” or a variant of the two. The name meaning, “I am that I am” or variant, e.g. “I will be what I will be”.
“Christian Arabs were using their own word for God for 5 1/2 - 6 centuries before Muhammad”
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“Allah” was one member of the pre-Christian pagan Arab pantheon, why would they use the name of a pagan deity?
I will try to explain this, but it’s very difficult...
The Christian God’s will is pre-ordained, which He chose to be absolute. It coincides with the Word, which we can know imperfectly, but He gives to us through the Bible, the order of the supernatural and natural world, the Word made flesh, and the Advocate, the Third Person of the Trinity.
The Islamic “God’s” will is also absolute, so has elements of Christianity, but it is arbitrary.
Francis should have no need for that nonsense. Catholicism and many other Christian faiths are more than enough.
Oops, clicked “Private Reply” by mistake - sorry!
Allah is the generic Arabic word for’god’. Not a certain deity. Atabic-speaking Christiand used it, as did Jews in Islamic countries.
And the ‘moon god’ angle gets overblown.
Islam as conceived by Mohammed largely is (skewed) late antique Judaism with a smack of Christianity and some Arab pagan rites and rules applied originally to desert savages in a brutal and coercive fashion.
Mohammed essentially took parts of the Bible (personally or through other persons), didn’t get the message, but used it to fashion his own cult following in order to fuel his conquests.
* excuse the typos
Why they would use "Allah" rather than some alternative Arabic word I do not know. I only know Arabic-speaking Christians did and do use the word "Allah," even to the present day. The Arabic New Testament refers to "Allah the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" --- in other words, the Trinity, which is as Christian as you can get, terminology far predating the highly-erroneous Koran.
“Deus” (Latin), “Theos” (Greek), “Gott” (Germanic) all referred to pagan deities before the words were appropriated to the One True God.
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