Posted on 12/06/2016 7:00:25 PM PST by NKP_Vet
What seems obvious to you may not be what they want to convey.
Whatever they’re trying to “convey”, it clearly isn’t in support of his heretical policies. They are making a stand against him. You’d have to be blind to take this any other way.
And yet, I don't think they would ever say they are "against" him.
Actions speak louder than words. When was the last time a Pope has been challenged in this manner?
Whenever that was, did they say “against him”?
And the Sixth Commandment is merely an ideal.
Are you intentionally denying Catholic ecclesiology? Or do you just not understand it?
Taking refuge in tedious word parsing is weak and unpersuasive. Though some are still loathe to admit it, Bergoglio has manifestly crossed the line. The emperor has no clothes.
They don’t need to. The whole concept of a “dubia” is, literally, casting “doubt” on the orthodoxy of a teaching or policy. For Cardinals to cast doubt on some policy or pronouncement of the Pope is to imply that he has said or done something that they doubt is in accordance with the Deposit of Faith.
The correct answers to the Five Questions are: no, yes, yes, yes, yes.
When a HIERARCH (including the Pope) obstinately affirms the wrong answer to any of the questions, he lapses into heresy.
To refuse to answer the questions is to reveal complete intellectual dishonesty.
Any literate Catholic can be certain that where Bergoglio differs from all previous Popes, Bergoglio has lapsed into heresy.
It is preposterous to say that a lay Catholic who, in good conscience, reaches the wrong answers will be guilty of heresy, schism, and excommunication.
It is doubly preposterous to say that it is possible for a Catholic who adheres to the teaching of Christ (i.e., answers the Five Questions with no, yes, yes, yes, yes) could be guilty of heresy or schism, or incurs excommunication.
“The supreme Magisterium in this case is being debased.” Yes, sir. Pope Francis does not understand that the Magisterium has divine assistance and his attempts to dent, scratch and repaint the Magisterium are useless. The original, shiny and straight M. always bounces back.
It has deeper implications. Are those living in the state of mortal sin eligible to receive communion? (Paul warned about this)
But the real question is back story: It implies sexual sin is not really sin, and it suggest communion is not the Holy Body and Blood of Jess, but a feel good symbol for anyone who wants it.
and it goes even deeper to the idea that morality is relative: Is there right and wrong, good and evil, or is everything “Grey”... the bishops asked him to clarify this problem.
The Catholic religion long ago perverted the Gospel by teaching we are justified before God by our faith AND our works. Issues concerning who can or cannot receive the Catholic Eucharist and when they can do so is NOT the "Gospel". The gospel is the GOOD NEWS that Jesus Christ died to save us from our sins and that it is by grace THROUGH faith that we are made righteous and have eternal life.
Martin Luther's dubia with the Catholic Magesterium and the Pope WERE actually about the Gospel and how the selling and granting of indulgences were abused to the detriment of the truth. For that, he was excommunicated and a death warrant was placed on head. How times have changed!
What is faith? Faith is upholding your end of God’s Covenant. It’s not mouthing the words “I accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior!” Faith is accepting it in thought, word, and deed. Remember that not everyone who says “Lord, Lord!” will enter the kingdom of God. There’s a wealth of meaning in that verse.
Billy Graham had all his children baptised as small infants. Why do you think he did that?
“The Catholic religion long ago perverted the Gospel by teaching we are justified before God by our faith AND our works.”
James cares to defer with you. Which is the reason Luther despised the writings of James. Didn’t fit in with his narrative. After all Luther knew Jesus personally and James never met him.
Faith is trust, confidence, dependence on, resting in, believing and receiving the grace of God that saves us not based on our own righteousness or the deeds we perform but because of His mercy. In Hebrews 11:1, faith is: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Ephesians 2:8,9 says, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Finally, faith is believing God that what He has promised, He WILL do. And genuine faith is revealed by how we live our lives - our walk, our talk, our holiness in Christ. Our works do NOT save us, they show that we are saved AND God alone sees the heart.
A life long humanitarian who do commits murder is still a murderer and needs to pay a penalty for that crime. Works are a fruit of the spirit a sign that God showed mercy to you and you now live forever under grace. If one can lose grace then the work on the cross was pointless and we still are under the old sacrificial system.
To the contrary, faith is more succinctly defined as obedience. Believing what Christ instructs us to believe in the New Covenant. Obeying the strictures He laid down for us to follow. He ordered us to eschew sin and peform good works. The faithful heed His instruction.
John 3:36 “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him.”
One-time acceptance of Christ isn’t faith. You don’t go on autopilot doing nothing but good works for the rest of your life after accepting Christ.You must accept Him anew everyday with your obedience. It’s not mere expression of belief in God or Jesus-—it’s acceptance of the life God wishes you to lead. Never forget that Satan believes in the existence of God, knows firsthand the truth of Christ’s words. And yet he is faithless. Obedience are not merely the byproduct of faith. it is integral to it. If you have no obedience, you have no faith.
Hilary White had a good editorial on the significance of this festering post VC II boil that has been exposed to the light of day by Bergolio and lanced by the Four Cardinals. It is a very exciting time in the history of the Church and the world. As I was driving across the desert with the cruise control set at 80MPH today it became clear to me that we are beginning to see the long prayed for Triumph of the Immaculata over the losers who have been running a show for the last 100 years. It is similar in timing to the defense of Breed’s/Bunker Hill where the order was given to “not shoot until you see the whites of their eyes”. The lies, grand deceptions, and snares of Lucifer are crashing down all around us. It is wonderful to behold.
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