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To: amorphous; kosciusko51

It is God’s will that all be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. He doesn’t want any to perish.

However, I also see in Scripture that He draws us and calls us and commands us to repent, knowing that not all will.

He clearly gives us the final choice whether we say yes, to Him or not.

So it’s His will for all to be saved, but it’s also His will for us to make the response. So is God’s will being thwarted?


268 posted on 02/23/2017 1:36:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
So it’s His will for all to be saved, but it’s also His will for us to make the response.

You've stated it as I believe it.

272 posted on 02/23/2017 3:37:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Are you talking about 2 Peter 3:9? If so, that passage is talking about how God is being gracious by delaying His return. God takes no delight in punishing the unbeliever, so in His great mercy, He delays His return until all that are to be save will be saved.

If God is omniscient, the He already knows who will call on Him. To deny this denies His omniscience, and thus His Deity.


275 posted on 02/23/2017 4:50:09 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: metmom

Furthermore, if it is God’s will that all be saved, and yet not all are saved, then God is not omnipotent.


276 posted on 02/23/2017 4:52:51 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: metmom

If it up to us to make the response, then we can unmake the response. Otherwise, we lose the unfettered ability to choose.

So either God chooses and we are secure in our election, or we choose, and have the ability to both follow or walk away.


278 posted on 02/23/2017 5:04:55 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: metmom; kosciusko51
So it’s His will for all to be saved, but it’s also His will for us to make the response. So is God’s will being thwarted?

There's a complication. Was God's will thwarted in the garden?

292 posted on 02/23/2017 7:45:30 AM PST by amorphous
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