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To: WhatNot

I believe the correct acronym is KJV not KJB. Even in your own picture it says KJV.

I’m not sure, is this is just an announcement post?

If it’s one of your little “inclusive” group’s post, then why am I getting it?

If I continue to get them, having not signed up to, I will feel free to comment as I like.

You want to be able to preach to the whole FR congregation, yet only want to hear back from your own little study group.

While I reference almost any bible version, I use the NIV as it fits the closest with the Greek that the new testament was written in and today’s americanized English

As my first choice of a parallel I use the NKJV. The KJV is just too hard to read/understand with all it’s archaic words.

As far as a “bible” believer goes, count me one. The bible is absolutely the inspired word of God.

But you said “if you disagree that the KJB is the preserved word of God.....”

This suggests to me that you are saying that “ONLY” the King James Bible is “is the preserved word of God”.

That just isn’t TRUE!

King James was an honorable man and did a GREAT JOB of having the bible translated as accurately as he could. Not “perfect”, but very well done.

The translators used many versions themselves... “The King James Version translation effort was based primarily on the Bishops’ Bible, but the translators also used the Tyndale, Matthew, Coverdale, Great, and Geneva Bibles.....”.

It truly is a GREAT work.

I think the English translation of the Codex Sinaiticus reads like a combination of KJV and NKJV.

http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/

ALL versions/translations can be “inspired by God”, whose to say? God can’t inspire writers/translators today?

The Holy Spirit is “limited” to the KJV?

Does that not sound RIDICULOUS on it’s face?

The ONLY reason for “King James ONLY” is memorization. If your church switches versions, all those verses you memorized don’t match now.

I never thought much of “memorization”. Knowing what verses “MEAN” is far more important than quoting chapter/verse.

I await being booted from your sanctimonious little click.


22 posted on 03/28/2017 7:35:41 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
Don't know what you mean by, "why am I getting it?" I haven't even generated a ping list yet.

I appreciate your comments, but I don't think this is the Caucus for you, I'm sure you can start a Caucus that holds to Bible versions you believe to be correct though.

38 posted on 03/28/2017 8:10:02 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: faucetman
While I reference almost any bible version, I use the NIV as it fits the closest with the Greek that the new testament was written in and today’s americanized English.

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The King James is the authority for English translation for me however I do enjoy reading the New English Version.

As far as the Holy Bible being The Words of God, well I believe that the Hebrew text was The Word of God. As far as the Greek or certainly the Latin I like to hope they are.

When I have questions about certain passages I have gone to Strongs and other reference works for the original meaning, The KJV is most often right in my humble opinion compared to the newer versions, and sometimes by a wide margin.

While it is apparent that Christ spoke in Greek & Hebrew, mostly He spoke to those around Him in Aramaic. We don't seem to have any of those writings around. His Apostles also spoke in Aramaic although it is likely that since they were occupied by Rome they all also spoke some Latin. While Greek was the language used in schools outside the temple it is likely nearly everyone in the province spoke with some fluency in Greek. My point is that there are no original writings of The New Testament, we have translations of second hand remembrance of what was said. If those who wrote down what others said the Apostles said translated it correctly then perhaps it is all correct but that would be unlikely. As a whole, I think I can say the Bible is the word of God, perhaps there are words there that did not come from God but are what the translator thought he heard the person he heard it from said.

Considering all that, we are fortunate to have what we have of the New Testament considering thousands of unapproved books that claimed to be from the Apostles were burned after Nicea. Perhaps we can see why they were burned when we see the remnants of some of them that escaped.

When people tell me their church is based on the authority of The Bible I often ask which one? To me if you aren't communicating with The Holy Ghost then you don't know if what you are reading, if what you are told to believe about what you are reading is true or not.

The Holy Bible is wonderful, we are very fortunate indeed to have it, it alone however is not enough. It would be good to have someone who could say, "thus saith The Lord". Roman Catholics are lucky to have a Pope although this one has given me much reason for concern.

I think the Holy Bible helps keep us lay people informed when it seems the leaders of the church are heading out to left field. I don't think it is a perfect tool to judge by but it is what we have.

Because the basic doctrines of Christianity are repeated in the Holy Bible so often it would be hard to not understand the basics, Christ died for our sin so we could live with Him forever IF we repent, accept and follow Him then His Grace will cover us and allow us to be forgiven.

It is the nuance of The Word that seems to throw us so off balance. I don't think it should. When people start telling me the finer points of The Trinity I sometimes smile and act as though I'm listening. When some tell me that priests shouldn't be married because there is no proof that The Apostle Paul was married I do the same. There are many points of doctrine and nuance that I refuse to argue about because I don't think you can find that authority in the Bible, but it's OK with me if you want to as long as it is with someone else besides me.

63 posted on 03/28/2017 11:31:59 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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