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An Apology to the Eastern Orthodox Community
Pen & Pulpit ^ | 04-21-2017 | JD Hall

Posted on 04/24/2017 6:45:59 PM PDT by NRx

As the owner and president of Pulpit & Pen, I feel that I need to issue a public apology to the Eastern Orthodox community in regards to my managing editor’s recent words. In a series of posts, Pulpit & Pen editor, Jeff Maples, took it upon himself to essentially anathematize the Bible Answer Man, Hank Hanegraaff, and in the process said some hurtful things about an old and revered religious tradition. I would be remiss not to clarify Jeff’s remarks and in the process, make some apologies. I pray that it is received well by all of our friends in the Eastern Orthodox community.

Firstly, we would like to apologize on behalf of Protestants everywhere for overlooking the grave and damning heresies of the Eastern Orthodox tradition, compared to our stalwart protest of Rome. This has been an oversight of Protestants, due mostly to the revival of actual Biblical orthodoxy (you might call it Protestantism) developing primarily in the West, and under the wicked authority of Rome, and not under the Eastern schismatics known by the misleading name of “Orthodox.” While we have rightly called the Bishop of Rome the “antichrist” in our Confessions of Faith, we have overlooked the many antichrists that have gone out into the world and settled in their positions as leaders in the Eastern Orthodox tradition. It was not right of us to prejudicially focus on the Western anti-christ church just because they happened to be the ones murdering us for several centuries. In the future, we will strive to explain that anyone who seeks the title of ‘priest,’ (a blasphemous title if ever there were one), lead people into idolatry, claim the sole mediary position between God and man, practice necromantic prayers to the dead, engage in corpse worship, and promote meritorious salvation is an antichrist, every bit as much as the Roman Catholic abomination. We are sorry for leaving out specific condemnations of your religion in our Confessions, as it wasn’t very inclusive of us.

Secondly, we are sorry that many Protestants have stopped protesting, sending the impression that our confessional doctrinal beliefs don’t anathematize you as not only being sub-Christian, but being anti-Christian. We are sorry that men like Albert Mohler, Paige Patterson, Russell Moore and Carl Trueman, all who should certainly know better, seem to have affirmed you in your superstitious and pagan religion. While the Intelligentsia class of evangelicalism are happy to learn about how Rod Dreher’s monasticism fetish might be a valuable tool for fleeing the culture wars, the rest of us failed to speak up loudly enough to challenge them on this, partially because the idol-factory of our hearts are quick to make our own popes out of mere men, and we don’t like to challenge our popes. The fact is, Greek Orthodox men like Rod Dreher have no part in the Kingdom of God on Earth, because they have no part of the Kingdom of God in Heaven, unless they were to recant their idolatry and believe the one, true, catholic doctrine of Sola Fide. There’s no such thing as being “kind of Christian,” and the Trinitarian ontology of the Eastern Orthodox Church doesn’t undo the fact that trusting in your merit for salvation is just as damning as being a Modalist like TD Jakes or believing in 9 divine persons like Benny Hinn. So, therefore, we apologize for our evangelical leaders who have stopped protesting, even though they call themselves Protestants. Much of your outrage (the thousands of angry, F-bomb dropping emails we have received) is due to the fact you’ve never heard a Protestant say you’re not a Christian. It’s not because Protestant doctrine doesn’t say you’re lost (it certainly does), but because we’ve become a bunch of limp-wristed milksops. Forgive our cowardice.

Thirdly, we apologize for making it seem, should you have perceived it that way, that you’re unchristian because your priests wear dresses and you burn incense. While true religion has little patience for pretentious pageantry, the issue for us concerning your doctrinal apostasy is your denial of Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and Penal Substitution. The fact that you adorn your buildings in gaudy and sacrilegious, bedazzled idols is second to the more blatant soteriological heresies that damn your soul (although idolatry is damning enough). The fact that you believe that superstitious voodoo oil poured over someone’s head fills them with the holy spirit and brings them back from apostasy is secondary to your hope in your own righteousness for salvation. We (still-protesting Protestants) shouldn’t have focused upon your bizarre, extra-biblical rituals that resemble more seance than Biblical service of worship; we should have focused far more upon your doctrinal beliefs that oppose Jesus and the very Gospel itself.

A Greek Orthodox believer sent this to our email, which was going around to great applause in Greek Orthodox social media forums. This is Jeff Maples and his daughter, in hell with the Reformers.

Fourthly, we apologize for letting you get away with asserting your religious superiority by the age of your church. While it is true that you happen to live in a part of the world that was first affected by the Gospel, your geographical proximity to the early church does not mean that you hold to the doctrines or practices of that New Testament Church. The fact is, the heresies of Gnosticism, Antinomianism, and the Judaizers all predate the Greek Orthodox Church. In fact, the sect of the Nicolatians (founded by an Acts 6 deacon) predates your church considerably. Logic, of course, would not deduce that these groups, because they are older, are right. We apologize for not being more forward in pointing out that Jesus specifically wrote to the Ephesians Church (where there is now the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate) that he would remove the lamp stand (IE the Holy Spirit) from their church for forsaking their first love, the Gospel of Jesus. The Scripture contains a very explicit warning, directly from the dictation of Jesus, that the church that would become Eastern Orthodox would have the Holy Spirit depart it should they continue on their path of abandoning true religion. While the Eastern Orthodox church is older than, for example, churches in other parts of the world, that doesn’t make it better. It just means that the Eastern Orthodox Church has been apostate longer than most churches have existed. Big. Stinking. Deal. You don’t get brownie points for the number of centuries since the Holy Spirit left your building.

Fifthly, we apologize for not pointing out, as you rage in anger that we anathematize you, that you anathematized us first. Like the Roman Catholic apostate church, Eastern Orthodoxy has also declared Protestants to be hopelessly damned for trusting in Christ’s accomplished work alone for our salvation. While the Eastern Orthodox community has ranted and railed with lamenting and gnashing of teeth toward Pulpit & Pen in recent weeks, they seem blissfully unaware that, like many cults, official Eastern Orthodox teaching declares that only they are the one true church and more specifically, they teach that actual Christians like ourselves are damned for trusting only in Jesus. We apologize for not pointing out that your man-made tradition similarly anathematizes, only it does it wrongly. There is no moral high ground of tolerance and open-mindedness that you can confess toward outsiders without denying the official teachings of your church, a church you believe infallible based upon nothing but the amount of time it’s held to its heresies.

I pray that you, as the Eastern Orthodox Community, will receive our apologies charitably. There has been much confusion because of the inability or unwillingness to articulate what Protestants actually believe about those who deny Sola Fide and Penal Substitution. We aim to fix all that, and do better in the future.

There is no justification outside faith alone in his accomplished work. Christ’s accomplished work includes his substitionary and vicarious death in our place, being for us our propitiation.

No amount of smells and bells, chanting absurdities, or calling out the gods of Ba’al and Asherah with much incense-burning, bell-ringing pomp and circumstance will change that.

Cordially,
JD Hall


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1 posted on 04/24/2017 6:45:59 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Congrats! They’ve finally figured out who you are and have started to call you antichrists as well!!

Hey can I make a request? An Orthodox Council condemning Protestantism with anathemas? :)


2 posted on 04/24/2017 6:55:19 PM PDT by Claud
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To: NRx

This is just sickening. We have millions of Islamists baying for our blood, and religious leaders in the West are still busy damning each other over their doctrinal differences.


3 posted on 04/24/2017 6:56:46 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: NRx

Not bad, for a Baptist.


4 posted on 04/24/2017 6:57:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: NRx

And you *do* stand in mortal peril of damnation JD Hall. You damn yourself by your contemptuous defiance of the Church that Christ founded, you damn yourself by absenting yourself from the sacraments that bring life and salvation, you damn yourself by daring to exalt your own ridiculous private opinions over the Apostles and doctors of the Church.

He who hears not the Church, let him be anathema.


5 posted on 04/24/2017 7:00:32 PM PDT by Claud
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To: NRx

Prideful, self righteous little jerk, isn’t he?

CC


6 posted on 04/24/2017 7:07:39 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: NRx
Who is this JD Hall a--hole, and why does he hate Christians and Christianity so much? Maybe he should try it sometime, he might find he likes it. He certainly is a miserable, wretched lost soul right now.
7 posted on 04/24/2017 7:12:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nothingburger
'...religious leaders in the West are still busy damning each other over their doctrinal differences."

Not a religious leader-- Just a pompous little bigot with his own interpretation of the Bible and a blog. Long after he is burning in hell for spreading lies and passing judgment on those who have professed, defended, and spread the name of Christ for 2000 years, Christ's Church will remain.

8 posted on 04/24/2017 7:16:22 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: NRx

This Protestant is disgusted by the tone and nastiness of the writing, along with the inability to recognize what is necessary for salvation according to the Bible (confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead), which is part of Orthodox doctrine just as it is Lutheran or Calvinist or even generic Pentecostal doctrine. Some people who think they are doing the work of Christ just need to SHUT THE HELL UP.

(and yes, I said hell, because that is where division in the church comes from)


9 posted on 04/24/2017 7:16:59 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: NRx

Isn’t that special? JD Hall (if that’s his real name) has an opinion, and saw fit to express it. I’d like to thank him for that ... I love freedom of speech. It lets jerks like JD Hall identify themselves; I now know to ignore whatever other blather and drivel he sees fit to emit.


10 posted on 04/24/2017 7:18:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: NRx

The world has been wallowing in darkness and error since the death of the Apostle John. We can be thankful that God has finally sent us J.D.Hall to straighten things out. /S!


11 posted on 04/24/2017 7:18:50 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: chajin

Good post.


12 posted on 04/24/2017 7:20:13 PM PDT by boycott
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To: NRx

JD Hall seems an idiot, based on this, and doesn’t speak for Protestants.


13 posted on 04/24/2017 7:20:17 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Nothingburger

“This is just sickening. We have millions of Islamists baying for our blood, and religious leaders in the West are still busy damning each other over their doctrinal differences.”

Exactly. What a moron.


14 posted on 04/24/2017 7:20:55 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Claud

You sound as dumb as JD Hall.


15 posted on 04/24/2017 7:21:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: NRx
Firstly, we would like to apologize on behalf of Protestants everywhere...

Pompous ass; he's as bad as Bergoglio, apologizing in the name of others.

16 posted on 04/24/2017 7:21:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Nothingburger
We have millions of Islamists baying for our blood, and religious leaders in the West are still busy damning each other over their doctrinal differences.

Perhaps there is a very special and quite warm reward for so fragmenting all of Christendom that it is unable to avoid being wiped from the public consciousness, or even the face of the earth?

Oh, and it's not millions, it's billions...

17 posted on 04/24/2017 7:26:14 PM PDT by null and void (Drain the swamp! Get rid of the mosque-itoes!)
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To: NRx

This author isn’t worthy to lick the boots of the eastern martyrs dying under the islamic knife while refusing to recant their faith in Jesus.


18 posted on 04/24/2017 7:26:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: NRx

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2014/august/suicide-pastors-kid-soul-searching-ergun-caner-braxton-hall.html


19 posted on 04/24/2017 7:27:52 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Nothingburger

As a Protestant I find this vile, counter productive and disgusting. It us the product of an ass in Human Form whose braying offends any decent Christian. It truly is remarkable such protozoans manage to find support in the face if the Islamist attacks.


20 posted on 04/24/2017 7:29:31 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! HE KILLED OBAMACARE REPEAL AND WILL KILL TAX REFORM!!)
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