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Brothers and Sisters?
OSV.com ^ | 05-01-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/13/2017 6:28:38 AM PDT by Salvation

Brothers and Sisters?

Q. I know that the Church believes in Mary’s perpetual virginity, but what are we to make of the passages in the Gospel that refer to Jesus’ brothers and sisters?

Rose, via email

A. There are a number of places in the New Testament (see Mk 3:31-34; 6:3; Mt 12:46; 13:55; Lk 8:19-20; Jn 2:12; 7:3-10; Acts 1:14; and 1 Cor 9:5) where Jesus’ kinsfolk are mentioned using terms such as “brother” (adelphos), “sister” (adelphe) or “brethren” (adelphoi). But “brother” has a wider meaning both in the Scriptures and at the time they were written. It is not restricted to our literal meaning of a full brother or half-brother in the sense of sibling.

Even in the Old Testament “brother” had a wide range of meaning. In the Book of Genesis, for example, Lot is called Abraham’s brother (see 14:14), but his father was Haran — Abraham’s brother (Gn 11:26-28). So, Lot was actually a nephew of Abraham.

The term “brother” could also refer widely to friends or mere political allies (see 2 Sm 1:26; Am 1:9). Thus, in family relationships, “brother” could refer to any male relative from whom you are not descended. We use words like kinsmen and cousins today, but the ancient Jews did not.

In fact, neither Hebrew nor Aramaic had a word meaning “cousin.” They used terms such as “brother,” “sister” or, more rarely, “kin” or “kinsfolk” (syngenis) — sometimes translated as “relative” in English.

James, for example, whom St. Paul called the “brother of the Lord” (Gal 1:19), is identified by Paul as an apostle and is usually understood to be James the Younger. But James the Younger is elsewhere identified as the son of Alphaeus (also called Clopas) and his wife, Mary (see Mt 10:3; Jn 19:25). Even if James the Greater were meant by St. Paul, it is clear that he is from the Zebedee family, and not a son of Mary or a brother of Jesus (in the strict modern sense) at all.

The early Church was aware of the references to Jesus’ brethren, but was not troubled by them, teaching and handing on the doctrine of Mary’s perpetual virginity. This is because the terms referring to Jesus’ brethren were understood in the wider, more ancient sense. Widespread confusion about this began to occur after the 16th century with the rise of Protestantism and the loss of understanding the semantic nuances of ancient family terminology.


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To: MHGinTN

And yet she entered a marriage contract with Joseph.


941 posted on 05/22/2017 8:16:53 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
, I think in the light of what the Angel said,

What did the angel say?

942 posted on 05/22/2017 8:17:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Second Adam I believe is the term.

And Eve was his wife not his mother.


943 posted on 05/22/2017 8:18:11 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
In other direct encounters with God, good people are recorded as being acutely aware of their status as sinners and their need for purification. Isaiah cannot receive the word of God until his mouth is purified with a burning coal.

Mary's contact with, and responsibility for, the Word of God is far more intimate and far more extensive. Isaiah was to speak the word of God with his mouth; Mary was to enflesh the Word of God in her body. Isaiah was to give human words to the Word; Mary was to give a human nature to the Word.

Each of them --- Isaiah and Mary --- was purified, not for their own vainglory but only in order to make them suitable instruments for their role in God's plan. Isaiah was purified in his mouth. Mary was purified in her nature.

When the Angel Gabriel comes to Mary, he doesn't offer to get a burning ember from heaven to purify her of sin. No, he simply tells her what she has already been prepared, by God's grace, to be: Kecharitomene.

If you google key words

Kecharitomene Greek word stem past perfect

you'll find a lot of articles which delve into the unique, richly indicative status of this word. It was never used as a form of address of any kind in all of Greek literature, sacred or secular, previous to this usage, and never used subsequently either. It is (from the point of view literary investigation) a one-off grammatical coinage, unique.

Gabriel is telling Mary she is already prepared. He says she is uniquely so: Kecharitomene, she who has (already) been filled (completely) with grace. She is so in her nature, only because that makes her fitly prepared for her role: to pass a perfect human nature on to Jesus Christ. It has to be from Mary because she was His bio-mom.

Mary was 'blessed' and 'favored' before the conception of Christ in her womb, even before the angelic visit. Due to what we know about the effect of sin on human nature, we can reason that this gift goes back to the point of Marys own conception, because that was when Mary's human nature was transmitted to her from her natural parents. (It's the same way for us: every one of us has a nature is transmitted to us by our own parents.)

Either Mary was, by Divine grace, preserved from sin, or Jesus was sinfully depraved in His humanity, the heir of her fallen flesh.

944 posted on 05/22/2017 8:18:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The promise is to those who follow the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all." Romans 4:12)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
... Mary and Joseph observed the same offerings prescribed the law which you cited.

And for the same reason:

SIN!


945 posted on 05/22/2017 8:19:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Baby Jesus was a sinner?


946 posted on 05/22/2017 8:20:56 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The promise is to those who follow the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all." Romans 4:12)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s insteuctions from Jesus to not use the title of Father for religious leaders.

Not amount of “ interpretation”, excuses, rationalizations, justifications, and absurd hyperbole will get Catholics any excuse for disobeying a clear, concise, unequivocal command of Jesus.


947 posted on 05/22/2017 8:21:05 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981; mrobisr

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>> “I’m well aware that the liturgies of the Jews and the Catholics have common origins and that those who tend to despise the Catholics also tend to despise the Jews.” <<

Total miss!

The Pharisees have no “litergies.”

They have their false enactments of Yehova’s Appointed Times, and their man made collection Takanot and Ma’assim. (false laws intended to keep the sheep subservient to false religions ‘leaders.’)

Are you admitting that the catholic church does that too?
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948 posted on 05/22/2017 8:21:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Fools that call Yehova’s called servants “con men” don’t have real souls.

Well, e-s, it would seem the burden is on you to prove that Michael Rood, a cultist, is actually one of Yehova's "called servants."

Other than his own claims, I don't see any proof.

I do see him trying to portray himself as a Levitical priest, which he is not.
I do see him pretending to be a rabbi, which he is not.


I find it hard to believe a "called servant" needs to be so deceptive.
949 posted on 05/22/2017 8:23:48 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: metmom

Explained away by the apologist as they entered into a pact for Mary’s protection knowing they both knew Mary would be ‘wifed’ by God. The layers of foolishness get deeper the more you press the false assertions.


950 posted on 05/22/2017 8:24:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Kecharitomene.
To this day, an unmatched honor.


It appears that you are wrong.

Luke 1:42  Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

 And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

Among - not ABOVE.


Judges 5:24
Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent.


 

951 posted on 05/22/2017 8:26:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

ONLY if God minds the Catholic ‘tradition’ claim that He had to, actually HAD TO use an ovum from Mary. But then, all ‘things’ are accepted if the institutional leadership declares it so.


952 posted on 05/22/2017 8:27:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom
Mary did not need to be sinless to carry Jesus.

What do CATHOLICS do with RAHAB's sin??

953 posted on 05/22/2017 8:27:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
Give me some time here
OK; go drink a beer.
Go rack yer brain,
But please do not strain;
Of Rome, none of us need fear.
954 posted on 05/22/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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You continue to make a fool of yourself by posting insane nonsense.

Michael’s ministry is constantly visited with the visible work of the Holy Spirit.

The Chronological Gospels, and the restoration of the Biblical Calendar are some glaring examples of that.

Not things that would interest you, judging by your ghastly posting history.

You would have to actually be seeking truth to find that out, so not likely any chance of that.
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955 posted on 05/22/2017 8:32:35 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie

Why Els, they don’t have to do anything with it! Magic Thinking allows such a range of thoughts, that it allows two or even three opposing facts to be held valid simultaneously. Remember, with the catholic god, in their religion, their god can do anything, including contradict himself repeatedly.


956 posted on 05/22/2017 8:32:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's Semitic hyperbole, and it's a striking feature of Jesus' rhetorical style.

Well; that sure explains...

"This is my body"


957 posted on 05/22/2017 8:33:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Five lines ok; but you’ve stretched the rhyming a wee bit.


958 posted on 05/22/2017 8:34:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

I was going to grade him; but I think encouragement is what is needed at this point.


959 posted on 05/22/2017 8:35:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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>> “I do see him trying to portray himself as a Levitical priest, which he is not.
I do see him pretending to be a rabbi, which he is not.” <<

Two glaring, deliberately false statements!

You must be getting help from your ‘father’ to come up with such absurd nonsense.
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960 posted on 05/22/2017 8:35:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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