[stormhill]

Just finished Isaiah, now reading through Jeremiah and they also do not support the rapture ideas.
I wouldn't waste one second trying to disuade those who believe that the Bible says there will be a rapture because experience has shown they are impervious to evidence.

[mountn man]

You can have whatever OPINION you want, but can’t Biblically deny the rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4: 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

Stated pretty matter of factly.
The only thing open for discussion is the timing.

[Republic_Venom]

You read stuff written by an Iron Age man who thought that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth? Isn’t that just stupid?

[Just mythoughts]

Just finished Isaiah, now reading through Jeremiah and they also do not support the rapture ideas. I wouldn't waste one second trying to disuade those who believe that the Bible says there will be a rapture because experience has shown they are impervious to evidence.

Paul who is blamed for writing a rapture doctrine, did not teach a rapture doctrine either. Paul describes what the 'feared' tribulation will be in Ephesians 6. Particularly very 12:

For we wrestle NOT against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in 'high' places.

(DNC and all its religious affiliations)

Rapture doctrinaires have no clue who that 'feared' anti-Christ literally is, thus they think The Creator is not able to protect them during the tribulation of mass deception.