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1 posted on 06/23/2017 9:12:09 AM PDT by ebb tide
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That’s mighty Catholic of them


2 posted on 06/23/2017 9:15:32 AM PDT by xp38
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Well I think the whole idea is ridiculous, but this part caught my attention:

One of the proposed possible solutions would be silence. It would mean that after the Sanctus, at the moment in which normally during the Mass the priest would say the words: “Father, you are holy indeed…” the different celebrants would keep silent, everyone mentally repeating “his own” formula.

BACK TO THE FUTURE! In the mass of the ages, the priest prays the canon silently/in a low voice. So this would actually be an improvement over the novus ordo. :-)

I've been attending the mass of the ages for several years now, almost exclusively, and when I do have to attend the novus ordo the noisiness of it all is quite jarring to say the least.

I can't even begin to imagine the pain that Catholics experienced when the novus ordo was rammed down their throats.

3 posted on 06/23/2017 9:18:53 AM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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They already can worship together. Any catholic is welcome to come into any catholic church and to fully participate. It is the bizarre and highly legalistic RCC that needs secret commissions to get approval for backdoor treaties, and to have them scrutinized by legions of celibate male legal scholars etc...to see if they can worship together.


4 posted on 06/23/2017 9:27:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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Protestants believe it is a memorial meal, but Lutherans believe in the Real Presence of Jesus’ body and blood “in with and under the bread and wine” in the sacrement because in the words of institution, Jesus said”This IS my body” and “This IS my blood.”


6 posted on 06/23/2017 9:30:45 AM PDT by txrefugee
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And folks will blame this on Francis. When in reality this is the logical next step in the New False Religion of Ecumenism that was promulgated at Vatican II.


7 posted on 06/23/2017 9:35:11 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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Biblical Proportions ?
9 posted on 06/23/2017 9:38:59 AM PDT by BlueDragon (whattya' mean you don't believe in Climate Change? the weather always seems to be changing...)
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Thanks, but no thanks. I don’t need a pope...especially a commie one.


11 posted on 06/23/2017 9:55:44 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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As a conservative Lutheran, no thank you.

And they are not talking to the sane Lutherans, but the branch that likes to ordain women and marry gays.


19 posted on 06/23/2017 10:21:24 AM PDT by redgolum
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The best thing would be just to go with what the Bible says in plain words and leave every thing else, but wait; that would not be popular with either the Catholics nor the Protestants would it?


20 posted on 06/23/2017 10:25:23 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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This is but another manifestation, albeit a dramatic one, of the coming schism. Should such a Mass ever become reality, it would likely be the precipitating event of such a schism. Part of the Catholic Church is drifting ever more rapidly, towards a union with liberal Protestantism. In this new Church, as in the current Francis pontificate, doctrine will not be held in great esteem. Those who insist on the importance of doctrine will be vilified as "rigid" and then ostracized. We see this happening at the moment in the Catholic Church. The important elements in this new Church will be "dialogue", "accompaniment" and just getting along with each other, despite differences in belief. This Church will be acclaimed and praised by the world and held up as a model of enlightenment and progress.

There will remain a small Catholic remnant composed of who knows how many bishops, which will descended into the catacombs where it will be scorned as obsolete, hateful and antiquated and eventually persecuted.

25 posted on 06/23/2017 11:04:22 AM PDT by marshmallow
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That’ll work. Then they can move on to a “Joint Rite With Muslims”. Service starts at 10 with 10 year-old girls being genitally mutilated. At 10.30 third and fourth wife marriages will be performed. Sermon for the day will be “Convert or lose your head, by Moe Hammid.”

At 11 a neck-slicing demonstration in the church basement. Christians who wish to volunteer are urged to register in the church office.


27 posted on 06/23/2017 11:17:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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I’ll pass on that one.


33 posted on 06/23/2017 11:29:11 AM PDT by zek157
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a new kind of “mass” that is acceptable to Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans.

Well, if there's going to be an apostate end times one world religion, the pope wants to be right on top of it.

He also said that the commission is allegedly studying the problem of the Creed. Protestant churches prefer to pray the Apostles’ Creed, although they do recognize the Nicene Creed. The Catholic Church alternates between them. So not even this point should be a major problem.

Nicene Creed is not a problem. It is true that I hear the Apostles' Creed much more, but we do sometimes say the Nicene.

According to Tosatti, the central issue lies in the Eucharist, since the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist is profoundly different from that of the Lutherans or of other Protestant denominations. Catholics believe in Transubstantiation and the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, while Protestants believe that it is merely a memorial

Lutherans would certainly object to that characterization. The Reformed Churches should.

Enjoy your Pope, by the way.

61 posted on 06/23/2017 4:09:26 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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Can’t we all just get along?


65 posted on 06/23/2017 4:20:47 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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I’m Anglican and I believe He is truly present in the Eucharist. We believe in The Real Presence.


80 posted on 06/23/2017 6:22:35 PM PDT by kalee
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I don’t think this will ever be approved.


89 posted on 06/23/2017 7:40:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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According to Tosatti, the central issue lies in the Eucharist, since the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist is profoundly different from that of the Lutherans or of other Protestant denominations. Catholics believe in Transubstantiation and the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, while Protestants believe that it is merely a memorial.

Wow. So Catholics communing together in memory of our Risen Savior is somehow better than non-Catholics communing together because what we're doing is "merely a memorial?"

That's pretty inflammatory language and I have to wonder did the author of this article deliberately attempt to inflame passions on this topic?

The Blessing of Communion:

1 Corinthians 10:16
Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ?

Communion with God is Communion with the Father:

1 John 1:3
what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:42
and they were constant in listening to the teaching of the Apostles and in their attendance at the Communion, that is, the Breaking of the Bread, and at prayer.

The most important verse which DOES NOT differentiate believers in Christ based on man made religion:

1 Corinthians 10:17
For we [no matter how] numerous we are, are one body, because we all partake of the one Bread [the One Whom the communion bread represents].

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case on 1 Corinthians 10:17 and as a former Catholic now born again Christian I'm comfortable with that.

I would no sooner deny any follower of Jesus Christ communion in the church I attend than I would chop off my own hand.

That's just not going to happen. Faith and Trust in Jesus Christ as one's Lord and Savior is all that's required and IMO the Bible, the definitive word of God is crystal clear on that.

117 posted on 06/24/2017 7:56:09 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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***Protestants believe that it is merely a memorial.***

That is so wrong. In fact, there is no such denomination as “protestant”.

There are hundreds of denominations, a few of which can actually trace back to those protest years starting with Luther and a few others.


333 posted on 06/26/2017 5:48:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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