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Jewish Allegiance To God After the Holocaust Has No Precedent
The Algemeiner ^ | October 5, 2017 | Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 10/05/2017 5:15:42 AM PDT by yldstrk

Find me one nation that has been more devoted to God throughout history than the Jewish people? Find me one nation that has stuck with God despite pogroms, auto-de-fes, expulsions, inquisitions, ghettoization, non-stop persecution, and, ultimately, the Holocaust. Find me a people that continues to honor the Sabbath, put on tefillin, affix mezuzot, keep kosher, marry in the faith, build synagogues and go to mikveh, even after their parents and grandparents were turned into ash at Auschwitz.

Find me one nation, like the State of Israel, that honors the complete rights of its 1.5 million Muslim citizens in the heart of a Jewish state. Find me an army that is more moral than the IDF, despite having genocidal enemies completely encircling it.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Judaism; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: atheistjews; holocaust; judaism; messianicjews; orthodoxjews
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Has God abandoned us? Jewish people have not abandoned God.
1 posted on 10/05/2017 5:15:42 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk; Sarah Barracuda; SkyDancer; Yaelle; GraceG; MeganC; onyx

Powerful, thank you for posting Yldstrk my good FRiend :)


2 posted on 10/05/2017 5:18:51 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: yldstrk

Seems to me I read somewhere that God said, “These are my chosen people, and I am the Lord.”

I think that one fact accounts for the worldwide jealousy against the Jews.


3 posted on 10/05/2017 5:25:20 AM PDT by abclily
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To: yldstrk

Indeed. God’s chosen people.


4 posted on 10/05/2017 5:25:25 AM PDT by FES0844 (G)
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To: yldstrk

God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit as One. The Son became flesh in Jesus Christ the Messiah. Fully God and fully man to save the world. Blessed are those who have ears to hear and believe.


5 posted on 10/05/2017 5:29:21 AM PDT by rephope
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To: rephope

I have trouble with the doormattedness of the Christian world view.


6 posted on 10/05/2017 5:30:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rephope

The angel saved the child who was to be murdered by his father in the Old Testament, but didn’t in the New.


7 posted on 10/05/2017 5:32:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Find me one nation that has been more devoted to God throughout history than the Jewish people?

The Old Testament is filled with examples of the Jewish people abandoning God. And the rebellion of the Jews against God is talked about repeated. Moses stated it, Joshua stated it, Isaiah stated it, Jeremiah stated it, etc.

Deu 31:26-27 "Take this Book of the Law and put it by the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against you. For I know how rebellious and stubborn you are. Behold, even today while I am yet alive with you, you have been rebellious against the LORD. How much more after my death!

The Jews have not be faithful to God. God has been faithful to the Jews. If the Jews had a concept of original sin, they would understand their unworthiness.

8 posted on 10/05/2017 5:49:39 AM PDT by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: yldstrk

“Sh’ma Yisrael....”


9 posted on 10/05/2017 5:54:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: yldstrk

God devised a way to move His word (Torah) through Time. The Jews. The Plan is working. The Torah has passed 5000 years un changed. Time begins when the Word of God is known upon the earth.


10 posted on 10/05/2017 5:55:38 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: yldstrk

Alas, much of liberal christianity has no pulse. But that’s NOT because of christianity. but rather because of the abomination its practitioners have made it.


11 posted on 10/05/2017 6:00:40 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: abclily

I think the concept of the “Chosen People” is understood differently by Jews and Christians. Jews see it as an obligation conferring additional responsibilities of moral behavior while Christians, I believe, see it as conferring special favoritism.


12 posted on 10/05/2017 6:02:43 AM PDT by captain_dave
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The Old Testament is filled with examples of the Jewish people abandoning God. And the rebellion of the Jews against God is talked about repeated.

Thank you.

13 posted on 10/05/2017 6:04:59 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: yldstrk
...doormattedness of the Christian worldview?

Please explain.

14 posted on 10/05/2017 6:07:29 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: yldstrk

I am a Christian man. (With all that entails.) I wanted to say that first, so the rest of my words could be seen with some perspective.

I believe the Jews are God’s chosen people.

“Chosen for what?” is the occasional humorous and wry question.

I think: chosen as being most typical of all humans. A mix of things — some “good,” and some “bad.”

Sinners who desire to have hearts of gold, and love the God who created all things — including them.

A people among many peoples who were chosen to suffer, and to constantly re-arise and still love God — as Job did.

Satan could not break Job. And Satan and all his minions won’t ever cause God’s people — and those who choose to ally with them — to turn away from them.

In that manner, and for that cause, even though I am a WASP by birth and upbringing, I count myself an ally of the Jews.
I count myself AS a Jew, for any practical purpose. And in these awful days, I stand with them as a Christian man, and as a warrior.


15 posted on 10/05/2017 6:13:52 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: yldstrk

If, after everything we’ve been through as a people, you’ve still made it to the synagogue, God knows that you’re pretty damned amazing.


The last sentence of the article. Reminds me of a lot of modern world view....................


16 posted on 10/05/2017 6:17:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: captain_dave

I think the concept of the “Chosen People” is understood differently by Jews and Christians. Jews see it as an obligation conferring additional responsibilities of moral behavior while Christians, I believe, see it as conferring special favoritism.


That begs a lot of questions:

1) From God’s perspective, why did he choose the Jews?
2) From God’s perspective, why does he choose a Christian?
AND
3) Does God choose or do we choose?


17 posted on 10/05/2017 6:21:43 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: piusv

The Old Testament is filled with examples of the Jewish people abandoning God. And the rebellion of the Jews against God is talked about repeated.
Thank you.


That is true, but it is also filled with examples of repentance by a remnant, time and time again.


18 posted on 10/05/2017 6:30:55 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: William of Barsoom

Very well put.


19 posted on 10/05/2017 6:32:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: PeterPrinciple

That is true, but it is also filled with examples of repentance by a remnant, time and time again.


The remnant is very important, but the abandoning is the dominant note. My impression, writing from a U.S./Canadian perspective, is that at the present time the vast majority of Jews at the present time are cultural rather than religious, and have abandoned most parts of the revelation given to israel.


20 posted on 10/05/2017 6:59:40 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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