Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism

Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

[boatbums]

> Sin requires punishment, it needs atonement.<

G-d is merciful and constantly anticipates that those who want to return to Him will repent and correct their ways. When they do, G-d forgives them for their sins and does not punish them for the past.

No denying that God is merciful. If He wasn't we would all die in our sins and be condemned to an eternity separated from Him. But God is also JUST and all holy. He demands atonement for sin. What do you think He meant in Leviticus (the third book of Moses) about blood making atonement? Why did he require it? Do you just ignore that part?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

> What do you think He meant in Leviticus (the third book of Moses) about blood making atonement? Why did he require it? Do you just ignore that part?

That is not how it works. You do not take the Written Torah and give subjective interpretations. The Oral Torah explains how to repent. I cited the actual and practical Torah Law of repentance. I will add that it is permitted for a Gentile to offer sacrifices, meaning to build an altar and offer upon it a kosher animal or bird which he owns as a sacrifice to G-d in any place and at any time. But it is highly recommended that Gentiles in our days not act on the permission from G-d to sacrifice.

[Mark17]

Preach it BB. Not one single solitary person on earth has ANY forgiveness of sins, without the shed blood of I AM (Jesus) Sooner could a fish live in a tree, than an unforgiven sinner live in Heaven. It doesn’t matter what people believe about it. Most don’t accept it at all, but it has no affect on the truth. I suspect most people who arrive in Hell Fire and brimstone, are surprised when they get there. Not many of them really expected it. They will cry to Jesus for mercy, but by then, mercy has passed them by, eternally, and fierce judgement will be their lot, forever. 🔥 It’s sad. It doesn’t have to be that way. 😩

[Mark17]

Likewise, if you want to learn about Jesus, feel free to write me.

[Mark17]

I like to put eternity in perspective this way. Picture Mount Everest. Every 100 trillion eons, a bird flies by Mount Everest, and knocks a grain of sand off the mountain. By the time that bird wittles that mountain down to sea level, eternity will have just begun. Does that put it in perspective?

[Elsie]

G-d accepts sincere repentance and forgives the repentant sinner for his transgression.

How many times?

[Elsie]

One who pronounces the Explicit Name will be uprooted from the world.

Can you PLEASE just make up your mind in this matter?

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G-d accepts sincere repentance and forgives the repentant sinner for his transgression.

[Elsie]

Verbal prayer to an idol makes one liable for a capital sin.

What can you do to merely rate a lowercase sin?

[Elsie]

Why did God have Noah keep seven pairs of every kind of clean animals and birds on the ark? We read in Genesis 8:

How many pairs of UNCLEAN did Moses put on the ark??

[Elsie]

More childish misdirection.

I see.

It must be better to have adult misdirection instead.

[Elsie]

Why would you wish to divert people from knowing the path to Yehova’s righteousness?

BAH!

Let them find it for themselves.

[Elsie]

When they do, G-d forgives them for their sins and does not punish them for the past.

And the FUTURE ones...

What about THEM?

[Elsie]

If you decide to follow Torah, feel free to write me.

They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

[Elsie]

But it is highly recommended that Gentiles in our days not act on the permission from G-d to sacrifice.

Oh?

Why not?

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And just WHO is doing this 'recommending'?

[Elsie]

Likewise, if you want to learn about Jesus, feel free to write me.

Jeremiah 29:13

You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.

While seeking with all of your heart;
Place not the horse before the cart.
Do not be a fool,
Follow STRICTLY many a rule,
Lest you hear that dread word, "DEPART"

[Hrvatski Noahid]

> How many times?

There is no specific number of times. Repentance helps to remove the sins between a person and G-d, such as one who serves idols. But for one who steals from his fellow, damages him or harms him, his repentance is not effective until he appeases the person he wronged and asks forgiveness from him, and if the person agrees.

[Mark17]

How many pairs of UNCLEAN did Moses put on the ark??

0, zip, Nada. He didn’t put any clean ones either. 😁

[Mark17]

Verbal prayer to an idol makes one liable for a capital sin.

What can you do to merely rate a lowercase sin?

I see, different degrees of sin. Maybe this is where the Catholics got mortal sins and venial sins. Suppose?
I was always told by the priests and nuns, to avoid committing venial sins, cuz they lead to mortal sins (the big M) I wanted to avoid the big M. I wanted to only commit venial sins, you know, just till I needed glasses. 😊

[Hrvatski Noahid]

> Oh?

Why not?

In order to bring a sacrifice, one should be worthy to approach that close to G-d, which is something that is very difficult to achieve in our time. A deed which one takes on voluntarily as an additional service to G-d must be done in an especially sincere and holy way. If the additional service to G-d is not performed by these higher standards, it will be considered as blemished before Him. It is obvious that this type of Torah-based Divine service should be instructed and supervised only by a reliable and expert Orthodox Rabbi, which is very difficult to arrange in our time.

> And just WHO is doing this ‘recommending’?

The faithful Orthodox Rabbis.

[ealgeone]

Ok....what is your version of the texts?