Posted on 12/09/2017 5:34:23 AM PST by metmom
. . . Being found in appearance as a man (Philippians 2:8).
Many people view Christ only as a man, but He is God.
After winning a gold medal at the 1924 Olympics in Paris, Scottish runner Eric Liddell served as a missionary in China; he died in a prison camp during World War II. The camps prisoners loved Eric, for he served them so unselfishly. It was only at his funeral that they first learned he was an Olympic hero. They had had no idea of his full identity.
Most people didnt realize Christs full identity either, for He was found in appearance as a man (Phil. 2:8). At first glance that phrase seems like a repetition of the end of verse 7, being made in the likeness of men. We could paraphrase verse 8 to read, He was discovered to appear as a man. The difference between that and verse 7 is a shift in focus. In verse 8 we view the humiliation of Christ from the viewpoint of those who saw Him. Christ was the God-man, but as people looked at Him, they saw the appearance (Greek, schema, outward form) of a man. Paul was implying that though Christ appeared to be a man, there was much more to Him that could not naturally be seen.
For Christ to become man was humbling enough. For Him not to have been recognized must have been humiliating. He performed miracles and taught authoritatively, yet the typical responses were: You are a Samaritan and have a demon (John 8:48) and, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does He now say, I have come down out of heaven? (John 6:42). Because their minds were darkened by sin, people recognized His humanity but could not see His deity. They could not recognize who He really was. They not only treated the King of kings as a man but as the worst of mena criminal.
Unlike people who dont recognize Christs true identity, lets honor Him through a life of worship and obedience.
Suggestions for Prayer
Worship Christ for who He really isthe King of kings and Lord of lords. Praise Him for this truth in your prayer time.
For Further Study
Christ was not only fully man but also fully God. Read the following verses in which Christ Himself bears testimony that He is God: Luke 22:69-70; John 10:30, 37-38; 12:45; 14:7-10. What else should one find in these verses?
This has been hashed out again and again.
The PHRASE "Mother of GOD" is NOT found in the bible.
It is merely another of Rome's slight twists that allows it to give more POWER to 'mary' than is found in the bible.
Never. The human body of Jesus was wrapped around the Spiritual aspect of Christ. Much like stucco onto a house.
John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
We know that the holy spirit entered Jesus probably at conception so my only concern is was Jesus physically God?
I am not convinced either way but if we teach that Jesus was physically God why could`nt Mary be rightfully called the mother of God., because we know that she was the mother of Jesus.
There are many scriptures which will supposedly prove either
direction we want to go.
For instance When Jesus was dying on the cross, he cried, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me (Matt. 27:46)?
Mathew 20
23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
If Jesus was God the father, why
That is just two out of many and there are also many which
can be proof of just the opposite.
I like to keep it simple but this is any thing but simple,
if we tell a ten year old kid that Jesus is the son of mary and he is also God i have no doubt that the kid would assume that Mary was the mother of God.
Yeah and to try to prove them wrong the Protestants come up with a bunch of twists of their own that does more to prove the Catholics are right.
The PHRASE “Mother of GOD” is NOT found in the bible.......
It don`t have to, every one knows that Mary is the mother of Jesus, you say that Jesus is god what else needs to be said?
I wonder, can you tell me when GOD entered the physical body of Jesus? .....................
I would just assume it would be at conception.
When someone chooses to place a lot of eggs in on basket; I choose to inspect them one-at-a-time for rottenness........
How about apples elsie, it just takes one to rotten the whole barrel, the first apple is the idea that Jesus is God, i don`t know but if Mary is the mother of Jesus why would`nt she be the mother of God? she birthed him he could not have been here before her.
So i believe the real question is was Jesus physically God or was he spiritually God?
The Bible tells us that God is spirit.
But even though Jesus had the holy spirit he was not spirit he was a man.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
So no Jesus nor Trinity in the Old Testament, eh???
So no Jesus nor trinity in the old testament, eh???
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Glad you thought about that,and you’re likely
right, it became a trinity when Jesus was born,
at least that is how it appears to me.
Just saw this, I fail to respond at times because much of the time i am on My phone computer and it is so small.
I fail to see stuff.
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Glad you thought about that,and youre likely right, it became a trinity when Jesus was born, at least that is how it appears to me.
Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
The Father
Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD,
The Son/Jesus
he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it;
The Holy Spirit
he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
Who created the heavens and the earth??? He/They did...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
The Word is Jesus...Jesus was with God, and, Jesus IS God...Jesus was there when the the beginning began...And all things were created by Jesus...
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
There is absolutely no doubt Jesus, the second part of the Trinity existed in the beginning of creation, except in the mind of those who perhaps don't believe what God told us in the scriptures...
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Hmmmmm...I thought it was God who made everything...Here it is the Spirit that made Job...
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
So in reality, God was the Creator...And Jesus was the Creator...AND, the Holy Spirit was the Creator...
How do you explain that if there is no Trinity, if Jesus didn't exist until Mary got pregnant???
The Father is God...
Jesus is God...
The Holy Spirit is God...
They three are God...
Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea
Us, our??? There's 3 of them...But wait...
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Now, there's only one of them...
Upon further examination of the scriptures we can see where the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all three called Lord...
Isool. If you would read the first verses of isaih
42 you could see plainly that it was prophecy it
had not happened yet.
God said I will put my spirit on you maybe not the exCt words
But you can read it.
The prophecy was fulfilled when Jesus was born
Jesus did not come into this world as a ten thousand
year old man, be came as a new born baby and be became Jesus then.
Jesus did not come into this world as a ten thousand year old man, be came as a new born baby and be became Jesus then.
I didn't post verse 1, or 2, or 3...I posted #5...
Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
See that word created??? That is PAST tense...It is not future...
Obviously instead of looking at the truth I have posted you are looking all around it to justify your denial of the Trinity...
So your perspective is based in assumption. Do you agree with what Elsie wrote to support his ‘never’ response?
So???
I have no idea what you mean , maybe I am dense.
Yes, if you would read the prior verses you could see
that it was prophecy of the coming of Jesus.
Isiah 42.5
Thus saith God,the Lord,he that created the heaven.
It is not talking about two or three people there
it I SD only talking about one, that is God.
Ha,ha the truth you posted???
I thought I did believe in the Trinity, I believe
in the father, the son and the holy spirit.
but you seem to be much smarter than I am so maybe you
are right.
At least; definitely; more than One!
Kinda like; maybe; how a buried tree manages to show up a LONG time later; after being underground for; what?; a Long Time?
You now have a tree of stone. Minerals percolating though the tree cells over eons have changed the properties.
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