Posted on 01/07/2018 1:17:40 PM PST by tiredofallofit
That’s a great book answer. Reality is much more difficult.
Roman Catholics have to place their faith in Francis per Unam Sanctam.
I’d reply but you’d probably cry and have the post deleted.
Do not put your faith in men. They will fail you.
“What authority?”
I know not and care less. Haven’t been to church in 56 years.
Well, first off, welcome to FR. How’s your first day going?
Also, many people don’t take kindly to posting excerpts to one’s own blog.
Just sayin.......
Now a question.
Just what authority is given a pastor in the NT? What authority are you talking about?
“Now what Church had Peter as its first leader?
None in Scripture.
It might appear so but does a chicken look like the egg or an oak look like the acorn or the mustard tree look like the seed that they came from? Christ said He would build His Church not that He would plop down a ready made complete and perfect church all at once for all time.
No. Attendance does not mean by default submission to any one human being.
How many people ever question that authority?
This one does.
Eusebuis' Ecclesiastical History, p102
I don’t think of a pastor in baptist church down in Dixie having authority like Catholics think priests do
Not even remotely
We have saying about preachers who give too much credence to themselves
“Sometimes I think that preacher wants to do a little walking too”
A southern baptist preacher is the de facto leader of his church and preaches and brings folks to accept Christ and get baptized
That’s really his main thing when he can
But it’s not a vested authority at all
At least not in my life
A preacher if well seminary reared might be an authority on scripture
Mine growing up was sort of the Aquinas of southern baptists in the Deep South
Dr Joe Tuten
He was very learned
True.
But you fail to see the obvious conclusion...
If the church (as you just said) is allowed to grow... maybe the church “out grew” catholicism.
Is the Council of Jerusalem in your book of Acts? Or is it missing from your Bible?
And how about the descent of the Holy Spirit at Penntacost? Who was it who spoke to the people? Is that in your Bible or is it missing?
Christ established his Church on the Apostles, telling them that he would be with them always and that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it.
Are Christ’s promises the reason there still is a Catholic Church through the entire world?
infool7: It might appear so but does a chicken look like the egg or an oak look like the acorn or the mustard tree look like the seed that they came from? Christ said He would build His Church not that He would plop down a ready made complete and perfect church all at once for all time.
Yet Roman Catholicism teaches that everything they espouse has been "handed down" from the original Apostles.
As has been shown repeatedly in these threads this is not the case. Roman Catholicism has added to what was revealed in Scripture...in many cases going beyond Scripture.
Sure is...it records James as being the head of the Council.
Wrong — that is your interpretation. James was in charge of Jerusalem. Peter was in charge o the Council.
Why do you persist in believing these untruths of your own interpretations?
Yes it is, as well as the rest of Scripture. In it we see that Peter was never in authority over all assemblies.
And how about the descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost? Who was it who spoke to the people? Is that in your Bible or is it missing?
Peter spoke. This did not make him pope or a leader of all assemblies.
Even 1,000 years after Peter's death, the Orthodox Church did not recognize any Pope in authority of the church.
Even 2,000 years later, the Orthodox churches do not recognize a pope in authority over the churches.
Think about that, dear Salvation. The leaders descended from the Apostles rejected the false claims of Rome.
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