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Strategies for Returning to the [Catholic] Church
CE.com ^ | 01-11-18 | James Day

Posted on 01/11/2018 6:54:52 PM PST by Salvation

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To: TallahasseeConservative

Jesus may very well have been talking about Peters faith
being the rock, but he also said he was giving him the key to the kingdom.

We can say that Jesus was talking to all of the apostles
but proving it is something else,

The Catholic Church teaches more than enough UNsscriptual
doctrine that I think we can give them the benefit of the doubt on this.


41 posted on 01/12/2018 8:53:42 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: ravenwolf

I grew up in the church. I was NEVER encouraged to study scripture on my own, only the Catechism. That’s all I need to know about the RCC.


42 posted on 01/12/2018 9:08:39 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Ken Regis

But an inactive Catholic, correct?


43 posted on 01/12/2018 9:11:56 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ravenwolf
I quoted exactly what I meant to quote but thanks for your thoughts. I'm familiar with the Book of James and could have quoted many passages from there also. God's Word is very clear: we come to Him by faith. There is no way that anyone should be confused and think that there is something THEY CAN or NEED do to be saved. (Heb 11 comes to mind right now)

Here's one of the key verses that led me out of the trap I was in many years ago:

Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
Gal 3:3b

"Flesh" is a reference to unregenerate, weak, human nature. Trying to achieve righteousness by works (such as circumcision - and a WHOLE HOST of such works that people on this thread believe will make the difference for them) or, life in the “flesh.”

44 posted on 01/12/2018 9:13:15 AM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Ken Regis

You read what Paul had to say, I have no doubt you have also read what Jesus had to say, if yo love me you will keep my commandments.

Boasting about faith is no different than boasting about works,

Let’s see some of it.


45 posted on 01/12/2018 9:24:53 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

I have never been in a Catholic church because I have never believed in religion, however Jesus does tell Peter that he shall be called a rock and Up on this rock I will build my
Church.

Scripture is what it is no matter if it is the mother of the harlots or the daughters that are quoting it.


46 posted on 01/12/2018 9:36:56 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: Salvation

YES. I’m VERY active. Thanks for asking.

And as you said, “...you will always be a Catholic.”

So, I look forward to bringing a fresh perspective to the Caucus.


47 posted on 01/12/2018 9:47:56 AM PST by Ken Regis
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To: ravenwolf

I’m sorry.. who’s “boasting” about either one?

...just wondering what you saw.


48 posted on 01/12/2018 10:07:01 AM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Ken Regis

Paul is talking about boasting about works, he is talking about people( mainly of the religious jewish leaders ) who preaches ritual works as the way to salvation.

James is saying that if any one really has any faith it will be shown in their works.

Many people boasts about their works and the ones who are opposed to works boasts about their faith and i think they are both liars.


49 posted on 01/12/2018 11:18:47 AM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: ravenwolf

All true. Thanks!

Especially since God wants our works to be the consequence of a regenerated life in Christ that comes from faith in the Gospel truth.

Anyone who puts the cart before (or adjacent to) the horse is bewitched by a false “religion.” That is a point that needs to be constantly made for anyone who is fooled by such a religion.


50 posted on 01/12/2018 12:07:42 PM PST by Ken Regis
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“When was the last time a Pope resigned?”

February 28, 2013. It was a Thursday.

“I am dealing with reality, the current occupant of the Vatican is a Marxist anti-Christian Islamophile.”

Let’s say all of that is true for a moment. How does any of that negate Benedict’s resignation? It doesn’t.

George W. Bush left office. The fact that Obama is a “Marxist anti-Christian Islamophile” (and he really is one) in no way negates the fact that Trump is no president or that Bush left office at the end of his term.

You’re clearly not “dealing with reality” as much as you think you are.


51 posted on 01/12/2018 12:18:17 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

I meant before Benedict.


52 posted on 01/12/2018 12:39:33 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Pope Celestine V in the 13th century. And?


53 posted on 01/12/2018 1:37:37 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

So it is unusual, to say the least.


54 posted on 01/12/2018 1:42:15 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Cicero

And if you stay you are voting for him with your presence and dollars.


55 posted on 01/12/2018 1:45:38 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Church made up of those who have washed their robes in the Blood of Christ is not and never has been in trouble. Man made corrupt organizations pretending to have a monopoly on Truth are in trouble and rightfully so


56 posted on 01/12/2018 1:49:14 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ealgeone

Your comment: “Except it seems in Roman Catholicism Mary is always held up along with Christ.”

Why shouldn’t she be held as an example of following God’s will as a virgin, free from sin and the Mother of God?

Did you ever consider that if she rejected God’s messenger, Gabriel, then Christ may not have died on the Cross for your sins and potential salvation?


57 posted on 01/12/2018 2:21:23 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
Why shouldn’t she be held as an example of following God’s will as a virgin, free from sin and the Mother of God?

She was a virgin...until Christ was born.

She was a sinner before and after Christ was born.

She is the mother of Christ....not God.

Did you ever consider that if she rejected God’s messenger, Gabriel, then Christ may not have died on the Cross for your sins and potential salvation?

You're saying all of Christendom rests upon what Mary says??

You are so deep into Roman Catholic teaching on this you don't realize what you're saying.

58 posted on 01/12/2018 2:35:48 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM

Gods plans will not be thwarted Had Mary said no there would have been another. Who is this free from sin mother of god character you speak of? I cannot find her anywhere in Scripture.


59 posted on 01/12/2018 2:36:50 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Salvation
Please remember that Rome does not represent all Catholics. Especially the ones on Free Republic.

Unam Sanctam....you, as a Roman Catholic, have to obey your pope. You have no choice in the matter.

60 posted on 01/12/2018 2:38:03 PM PST by ealgeone
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