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Strategies for Returning to the [Catholic] Church
CE.com ^ | 01-11-18 | James Day

Posted on 01/11/2018 6:54:52 PM PST by Salvation

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To: ADSUM
Not later life after death. NOW.

Jesus says that if you eat His flesh and drink His blood you will live forever.

If you all demand that the passage be taken literally, then it means literally never dying.

The switching between literal and figurative, physical and spiritual, within one passage is wrong interpretation. It leads to deception, making the Word say what you want it to say instead of saying what it says.

Catholicism demands that the correct interpretation violate other Scripture.

God adamantly forbids the consumption of blood.

Don't eat the blood, the life is in the blood

Genesis 9:4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life , that is, its blood.

Leviticus 3:17 It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood.”

Leviticus 7:26-27 Moreover, you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwelling places. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

Leviticus 17:10-14 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.

“Any one also of the people of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among them, who takes in hunting any beast or bird that may be eaten shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth. For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Leviticus 19:26 “You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.

Deuteronomy 12:16 Only you shall not eat the blood ; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life , and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Deuteronomy 15:23 Only you shall not eat its blood; you shall pour it out on the ground like water.

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Matthew 26:29 I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

Mark 14:25 Truly, I say to you, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”

Luke 22:18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

501 posted on 01/16/2018 3:28:11 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Salvation

btt


502 posted on 01/16/2018 3:28:46 PM PST by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: Mark17

Yeah, there’s another cloud on the horizon of this dust bowl.


503 posted on 01/16/2018 3:41:16 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ealgeone

Didn’t Jesus say in Luke 7:28, that no one born of women, was greater than John the Baptist? I would suspect John was greater than Mary, since were both born of women. Kind of blows their theory out of the water. I don’t expect anyone to pay attention, but hey, we try.


504 posted on 01/16/2018 4:49:30 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ADSUM
the Bible speaks of an infallible Sacred Tradition

Never.

and an infallible Church

Never.

that has authority to interpret Scripture

Never exclusively.

The Bible even warns against sola scriptura.

Never.

505 posted on 01/16/2018 4:49:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17

Now there you go reading the text again!


506 posted on 01/16/2018 4:50:32 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

Yes, the faith still has.to be in Jesus and not religion as any whos faith is in religion is putting their faith in the devil.

My belief.


507 posted on 01/16/2018 4:52:24 PM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane tdrivers and tailgaters are the smallest peabrains in the world.)
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To: ADSUM

The Protestant idea of the “Bible alone” (sola scriptura) is, ironically, nowhere in the Bible. On the contrary, the Bible speaks of an infallible Sacred Tradition and an infallible Church that has authority to interpret Scripture. The Bible even warns against sola scriptura.


Jesus constantly quoted scripture, he NEVER quoted tradition. He condemned the Pharisees for their tradition.........

What does that tell you?


508 posted on 01/16/2018 4:56:52 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ADSUM
I guess non-Catholics have different expectations?

Absolutely, totally, completely, 💯% correct. I have no intention of waiting till I am pushing up daisies, to find out if I have been good enough to attain and achieve Heaven. I will not try to lead a good life, to attain Heaven, only to die and find myself in the flames. Not on your life. I want to make sure of it NOW.
If others want to do that, that is their choice, but they will be rudely awakened at the great white throne, when He says depart from me, I never knew you. I have no intention of letting that happen to me. 😇👍
I hope you find the same peace of God that I found. Just don’t wait till you die to find out.

509 posted on 01/16/2018 5:12:19 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: imardmd1
Yeah, there’s another cloud on the horizon of this dust bowl.

Roger that. 😄😀

510 posted on 01/16/2018 5:19:38 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion
Now there you go reading the text again!

Yes, reading scripture, and doing YOPIOS, is a habit I aquired after I left the Catholic Church. I have never been able to break that habit, but I am comfortable with that. 😄😀 I am sure you are too.

511 posted on 01/16/2018 5:26:36 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

A life long habit that will serve you well! I cannot wait until eternity when the Word Himself will open scripture for us the way He did for the disciples on the road to Emmaus. I do not think we will ever tire of plumbing the riches of the Word!


512 posted on 01/16/2018 5:30:13 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ADSUM

Two words:

Prove it.


513 posted on 01/16/2018 5:32:35 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Mark17

You won’t go wrong doing that!


514 posted on 01/16/2018 5:35:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mom MD
This is my own private YOPIOS again, and I have no scripture to back it up, so I certainly don’t expect others to believe it. My opinion is, that in eternity, we will constantly be getting to know God better and better. After a hundred trillion eons have passed, and we have gotten to know Him better, at that point, we just barely be scratching the surface of the depth and riches of God, but we keep on learning, as eternity rolls on. I just don’t think eternity will be static. It will be dynamic. We will always be learning new things. Just my opinion. 😇
515 posted on 01/16/2018 5:48:25 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
🥇
516 posted on 01/16/2018 5:51:14 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17

I would expect no less of Heaven!


517 posted on 01/16/2018 5:51:41 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Mom MD; ealgeone
Three cheers for God, and His indescribable gift, and three cheers for assurance of salvation, even if some think we are committing the sin of presumption. I am comfortable with that. 😀😄😆😇👍
518 posted on 01/16/2018 6:01:50 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

“even if some think we are committing the sin of presumption.

And no doubt you know it’s never a sin to believe what God says!


519 posted on 01/16/2018 6:11:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17
Didn’t Jesus say in Luke 7:28, that no one born of women, was greater than John the Baptist? I would suspect John was greater than Mary, since were both born of women. Kind of blows their theory out of the water. I don’t expect anyone to pay attention, but hey, we try.

You obviously interpreted that wrong...Check with your local priest, or Imam...

520 posted on 01/16/2018 6:14:27 PM PST by Iscool
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